Dr. Mary-Claire King

And those differences would, of course, to use modern terminology, be regulatory.

And they would be due to changes in genomic sequence in regions other than protein-coding genes that led to differences in timing

and spatial distribution of expression of genes.

Of course, at the time, it was only a hypothesis.

We didn't have a genome.

We didn't have the word genome.

We didn't have the word genome at the time.

You guys are wonderful.

There's a whole lot of very active scientists for whom the word genome came after we had our PhDs.

Honest.

Including the people who made the genome project.

Yeah.

And that's what's so wonderful about working with millennials.

You have a completely different worldview.

You have a global, holistic worldview, and I hope you stick with it.

Oh, what a very good question.

No, but the no has a context, which is also, I think, important and has a general feature.

Until that paper, Alan's work had had a terrific amount of blowback because he and Vince Sarich had been working for, oh gosh, years.

on the interpretation of data that indicated that humans and chimpanzees had diverged, evolutionarily diverged, only 5 to 7 million years ago, whereas the standard wisdom was that the divergence had occurred, oh, 15 million years ago.

And that standard wisdom was based on fossil evidence.