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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And if we selectively deprive you of just deep sleep alone, and we can do this now very cleverly, it's not as though I see you going into deep sleep and I go into your bedroom and I wake you up and then you go back to sleep, which is how we used to do it sort of 10 years ago.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Now we can use a very clever method where we play auditory tones to your brain.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

but they are of a level that will not wake you up.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's what's called a sub-awakening threshold.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And we determine that.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And by playing those tones, it forces the brain to resurface out of deep sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So you will still sleep a total eight hours.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

but I will have selectively excised just your deep sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And when I do that, sure enough, your blood sugar ability, your ability to control your blood sugar, I should say, is impaired really quite demonstrably.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And it's for at least two reasons.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

The initial thing is that your pancreas, when it sees this spike in blood sugar, it normally releases something called insulin.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And that insulin is a trigger to your body to say, start absorbing the blood sugar so we don't get this toxic, or we don't maintain this toxic spike in blood sugar.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Your pancreas, when you are under slept and specifically when you're not getting enough deep sleep does not release the appropriate amount of insulin.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Worse still, what we found is that selectively depriving you of deep sleep means that what little insulin is released,

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

the cells in your body become less receptive to that insulin.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So you're not releasing enough of this chemical to say, start absorbing blood sugar.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And the cells that are designed to do that, they stick a straw out into your bloodstream and they suck up the blood sugar.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

They don't respond to the insulin anymore.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So on both sides of the blood sugar regulation equation, you become impaired.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And then I can give you an example upstairs in the brain.