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Dr. Matt Walker

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's the same way with a lack of sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So I make this point about going through the traffic lights because you can have these lapses of attention and these lapses of attention are caused by microsleeps.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Microsleeps happen when the brain just very briefly, it's almost like one of those toy ducks that kind of dips its bill into the water and then sort of comes back up again and dips it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Your brain just drops down and has a quick sample of sleep and microsleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And we can measure it in your eyelid, that your eyelid starts to have what's called a partial closure, and it just kind of goes half the way over, or it closes fully shut.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

That's a microsleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Even when it's half open, your brain is essentially offline.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's in a sleep-like state.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

We can measure it, and then it comes back online.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

so i bring that that's a very long way of saying that's the second metric i would use are you having these absences where you just kind of lapse another is that you mentioned it before i just don't feel restored um you could say look i i sleep for probably around about seven and three quarter hours every night but i just don't i don't feel awake i don't feel refreshed i don't

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So can you operate without needing caffeine and have good grace, good mood, and good cognition without needing caffeine before 11 a.m.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

in the morning?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And if the answer is no, you may be self-medicating your state of insufficient sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

But that metric of saying, I sleep seven hours and 45 minutes, that's what my sleep tracker says, but I don't feel refreshed, that comes to the second Q of QQRT.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

sufficient quantity of sleep, my guess is that I would then look at the quality of your sleep and we'd probably find a deficiency in the quality of your sleep.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So there are these different sort of tools that you can use, but a good one is, do you feel refreshed and restored by your sleep?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's not to guarantee any of these, but...

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Beautiful questions.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

I would say that one should not take necessarily either of those two as your best metric.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

The reason is the wake up component for some people like you, you're waking up and you are good to go pretty much out the gate.