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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

For most people, even if you're a morning type or evening type, by about 11 a.m., by about 11 a.m.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

midday, you're really starting to get to your peak.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Most people are somewhere either side of the peak or around that peak.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

I would say that if you are feeling groggy and not alert and awake at 11, 11.30, depending on your chronotype,

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

I would use that as probably the better metric of my daytime sleepiness.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And by the way, it's very interesting that that peak, if you look at that circadian peak, when you're at your optimal, it's both your optimal for your brain, but it's also for your body.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's the point at which your core body temperature starts to peak.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

That's the moment where you have optimal physiology.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And when you look at world records that have been broken in the Olympics and you plot them on the basis of time of day, you see this incredible beautiful spike where most people are breaking world records right in that circadian sweet spot around that midday period.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Why?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's because that's the period where human physiology seems to be at its optimal thermal

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

temperature at least.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Fascinating, fascinating.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

But on average, that's the way you'll see it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Yeah.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Yeah.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And that fits both with your brain.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And my guess is that if we were to get you into the gym and have you go through your routine and see if we could do that routine once we've got a basal metric, set of metrics, I will have you do it at 7 a.m., then have you do it at 9 a.m., then do it at midday, then 3 p.m., then 6 p.m., and then 10 p.m.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

same workout, same human being, but there will be definitive periods of time in the day when you are optimal.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And my guess is that that optimality of brain is matched by optimality of body such that your peak performance output and let's say your peak jump height or your peak muscle strength would be right around those time periods that fit with your own circadian chronotype rhythmicity.