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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And it seems to be that it's deep non-REM sleep that is the principal time when we get the chance to clear away adenosine.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Now, adenosine clearance is happening all of the time.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's just that the rate of accumulation when we're awake exceeds the speed with which we can naturally clear.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

But when our brain goes into deep non-REM sleep and becomes less metabolically active, it's

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's not as though there's necessarily a more active or a very proactive state of deep sleep doing that cleansing.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's not.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's the same process of adenosine clearance.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's just that there is no longer the accumulation that's happening.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So it gets the chance to catch up on the day's adenosine accumulation and then reduce down that adenosine debt and then get you to net-net neutral by the morning.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

In fact, the amount of deep sleep, the quality of that deep sleep that you're getting, specifically the electrical quality of your deep sleep, is a very good predictor of how well you dissipate that sleepiness.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Again, it's not as though there's something special about non-REM sleep that is proactively dissipated.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

doing the cleansing faster than happens when we're awake.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It's just that the rate of accumulation when we're awake is greater than the exceeding and exceeds the capacity of the clearance.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

So it builds up.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

When we go into non-REM, less metabolically active, now the clearance exceeds the buildup and you're able to cleanse that debt.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

It is, although there is some argument that it is, is it sleep dependent or is it simply sleep coinciding?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Okay.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

Meaning that is it, it's that the time of day, so is it a circadian process where it's just nighttime nurse means that you release growth hormone or is it nighttime

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

plus sleep that is needed.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Biology of Sleep & Your Unique Sleep Needs

And it seems to be a mixture of both, but it seems to be more sleep dependent than it is nighttime dependent and sleep independent.