Dr. Matt Walker

The problem is, as I said, your mind is on itself.

And it's going through these repeated loops.

Anything you can do, for example, you can do some kind of a meditation.

And when I was researching data for my book some years ago, I did look into meditation.

And I wasn't a meditator.

I was a hard-nosed scientist.

didn't really kind of embrace with that notion or even that group of people.

But time and again, I read paper after paper and the data was very strong and it was coming from research groups that I respected very much indeed.

So I thought, well, okay, I should probably give this a try.

And that was six years ago.

And since then, I now meditate for 10 minutes every single night before bed.

I do a guided meditation because I'm not particularly skilled.

So I use an app that moves me through that.

But you can do whatever meditation you like.

That's one example.

The second example is you can do breathing methods because, again, you're focused on your breath.

what are you not focused on your thoughts and so anything that will allow you to um explore some other focus maybe it's a body scan where you start at the top of your head or you start at your feet and you work your way up and you just say you know moving through now my neck what sensations am i feeling now into my shoulders moving down into my chest now

i could feel the ends of my fingers am i sensing anything and when you start doing that or any of these types of things the next thing that you remember is your alarm going off in the morning because you got your mind off itself so i would say that that's probably one of the unconventional tips but let me come back to the conventional

Anything else I've probably missed out or been unclear about there?

Actually, I should probably say one thing in terms of these.