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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And then I stopped using.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And one of the strangest things happened to me.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

I just started to have the most wild, vivid, crazy dreams.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And I didn't know what was going on.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And it's a very simple explanation.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

As you've been using, your brain has been compromised in the amount of REM sleep it's been getting.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And you've been building up chronically a REM sleep debt.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And your brain is smart in the sense that it does try to clock to some degree a counter of how much REM sleep you've lost.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And many people will say, yeah, I don't really remember my dreams when I'm using.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But when they stop, the brain finally, because it's been cleansed of the thing that's the roadblock to REM sleep, not only do they go back to having the normal amount of REM sleep that people would have, they have that, plus they have what we call a REM sleep rebound, which is even more and more intense REM sleep, which leads to more intense dreaming.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So it's a very, I suspect there's a lot of people who've had that experience listening if they have been users and they've stopped.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So that's the second reason we don't advocate it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

The third reason is that when you stop using, you also go through a very vicious insomnia withdrawal syndrome.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Often many people will do.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now that depends on how much you've been using, for how long you've been using.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

If you look at the data, and by the way, part of the clinical diagnostic, the psychiatric diagnostic description of cannabis withdrawal is insomnia.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

That's how reliable this insomnia problem is when you come off cannabis.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And if you look at the data, one of the main reasons that people relapse and start using cannabis again, even though they don't want to, is because they can't deal with the insomnia that withdrawal has given them.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So you don't want to get into that vicious cycle.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

should you wish, again, it's your choice.