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Dr. Matt Walker

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3459 total appearances

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And you say, no, no, no, you didn't understand.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

I'm not getting enough sleep, but it's not quite that.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Here's how it works.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

If you are spending so much time in bed, too much time in bed, you are not forcing your brain to be efficient.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And by way of constraining your sleep window, even to, let's say, five hours a night to begin with,

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

I brute force ruthless efficiency from your sleeping brain after several days.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So another analogy would be, let's say you're trying to make a nice thin crust of pizza base and you put the dough on the table and you start rolling it out.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

If you roll it too thin, it starts to get gaps and holes in it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Why?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Because you've spread it out too far, and you've started to create these absences.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

That's the same thing that happens, and it's very natural.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

As an insomnia patient, you would say, I'm just not getting enough sleep, so I'm going to start spending more time in bed.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

It's the very worst idea.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Another way would be to say, look, I go to the gym, and I spend about an hour and a half working out, but if I were to videotape you, a lot of people are doing the, I think I've coined it as your phrase, but the 11th rep,

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

where people do the 10 reps and then all of a sudden there's the selfie or there's the social media.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And if you look, they're only working out for about, let's say, 45 minutes and the other is wasted.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So what if the next day you came to the gym and I said, look, I'm sorry, and there's some big bouncer guys at the door, you are only allowed to work out for 40 minutes and then we're going to eject you.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And the first day you go back and you do the same thing.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And then you've only got through 30% of your workout.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So you get booted.