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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

However, if you look at that paper, and here's why I think the first method may not have worked very well and why I don't suggest people start trying to set this up themselves.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

When they kept stimulating the brain, slow wave after slow wave, after about 30...

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

three or four strikes of the metronome to boost those slow waves, the benefits stopped.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And if they kept going, you started to inhibit the amount of naturally occurring deep sleep brainwaves.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Why would it do this?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Deep sleep brainwaves, I told you in the first episode, are a act of incredible neural coordination.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

It's mass coordination.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now, one of the extreme versions of mass coordinated propagated activity that is maladaptive, that is pathological, is called an epileptic seizure.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And your brain has in place for the most part, stop gaps to prevent that type of spread of vast amounts of coordinated spontaneous electrical oscillations, because the brain is such a conductive device that once you get it going, you've got to be careful because it may start to conduct out of control.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So we think that these checks and balances that were in place, even though you can artificially stimulate it for a while, after a while, the brain says,

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

You've got to back off for a while because this is getting a little bit out of control.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

You do a breath pause and then you restart again and you get the benefit and then you breath pause.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So you've got to do it a little bit intimately.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now you've got to read the, what we call the supplemental materials of that paper.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

You've got to go, it's like the fine print on a legal document.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

If you dig into it, you can see that that was the case, but it wasn't necessarily evident.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So those were really the data on acoustic stimulation.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And now with this closed loop acoustic stimulation that we've got going on, it seems to provide these nice benefits.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Some people then will probably be asking, what about these noise machines?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

What about white noise, etc.