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Dr. Matthew Walker

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And its basis comes back to something that, in fact, we, I think, hopefully published the first evidence in humans of some years ago now called memory reconsolidation.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

So in our episode on learning and memory, we said that there is at least sort of two main steps of memory.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

First, you have to imprint and learn the memory, lay down that memory trace.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

But then that memory is very fragile and vulnerable to being overwritten by competing information knocked out of place.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And for you to hold on to that memory, you have to go through a second step called memory consolidation, a very slow process.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

It's like a very slow pressing of the save button because it's biological.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

It requires protein synthesis and all of that good stuff.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

But that always struck me as a strange model because it's the equivalent of opening up a Word document.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

You type out all of the information into it.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

and then you hit the save button.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

So I've encoded, imprinted the information that I've hit save and saved it.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And then I close that file.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And then the next day I come back or some days later, and I double click on that file again, because I want to edit it.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

I either want to add to it or I want to revise it and change it.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

But according to that model, it's been locked in place and you could never edit that Word document.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

That seems like a profoundly useless way to store information.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And what we learned is that every time in subsequent days when you reactivate, which is to say when you recollect the memory that has been consolidated, it opens that memory file back up to once again being plastic and malleable.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

So you can go in and update the information in that memory store.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

And then the next night you consolidate it again.

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GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: The Science of Dreams, Nightmares & Lucid Dreaming

In other words, you reconsolidate it.