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Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

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Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

you will get this different quality figures for objects made in different times or by different cultures, just because they use different fashioning or manufacturing techniques. And that's, you know, the main thesis of the paper. And I say, here is the method.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

And by the way, I tested this method on Matt Bell's collection of vases, which was also supplemented by three modern vases, and actually five modern vases, three that like gift shop type vases, and two that were handmade. just to show that we can tell them apart.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

And by the way, I tested this method on Matt Bell's collection of vases, which was also supplemented by three modern vases, and actually five modern vases, three that like gift shop type vases, and two that were handmade. just to show that we can tell them apart.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

And by the way, I tested this method on Matt Bell's collection of vases, which was also supplemented by three modern vases, and actually five modern vases, three that like gift shop type vases, and two that were handmade. just to show that we can tell them apart.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, onyx. Two onyx and one, I believe, was one. One's probably marble. Two were onyx. Yeah, so onyx is pretty hard. It's pretty close in hardness to granite. And when I watch videos on YouTube, I see people cutting onyx with... carbon steel cutters. So it's evidently machinable, but it's about the same hardness as granite. It's as hard or not too much softer.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, onyx. Two onyx and one, I believe, was one. One's probably marble. Two were onyx. Yeah, so onyx is pretty hard. It's pretty close in hardness to granite. And when I watch videos on YouTube, I see people cutting onyx with... carbon steel cutters. So it's evidently machinable, but it's about the same hardness as granite. It's as hard or not too much softer.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, onyx. Two onyx and one, I believe, was one. One's probably marble. Two were onyx. Yeah, so onyx is pretty hard. It's pretty close in hardness to granite. And when I watch videos on YouTube, I see people cutting onyx with... carbon steel cutters. So it's evidently machinable, but it's about the same hardness as granite. It's as hard or not too much softer.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, so maybe we can go... Yeah, well, I mean, here I just discussed the the background. So in archaeological science, people classify vases all the time. And, you know, Pietri classified them. And of course, I mentioned the pioneering work by Adam Young and Ben van Kerkwijk, because this is how I learned about the subject.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, so maybe we can go... Yeah, well, I mean, here I just discussed the the background. So in archaeological science, people classify vases all the time. And, you know, Pietri classified them. And of course, I mentioned the pioneering work by Adam Young and Ben van Kerkwijk, because this is how I learned about the subject.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, so maybe we can go... Yeah, well, I mean, here I just discussed the the background. So in archaeological science, people classify vases all the time. And, you know, Pietri classified them. And of course, I mentioned the pioneering work by Adam Young and Ben van Kerkwijk, because this is how I learned about the subject.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So I give them credit for discovering that some of these inner vases are finely made. And I say, okay, well, let me take a look at it. So here is the collection of Metz vases that I classified. S for spinner, V just for general type vase, and B for bowl type vase. So 22 objects from his collection are listed here. Some granite, some porphyry, and maybe one basalt.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So I give them credit for discovering that some of these inner vases are finely made. And I say, okay, well, let me take a look at it. So here is the collection of Metz vases that I classified. S for spinner, V just for general type vase, and B for bowl type vase. So 22 objects from his collection are listed here. Some granite, some porphyry, and maybe one basalt.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So I give them credit for discovering that some of these inner vases are finely made. And I say, okay, well, let me take a look at it. So here is the collection of Metz vases that I classified. S for spinner, V just for general type vase, and B for bowl type vase. So 22 objects from his collection are listed here. Some granite, some porphyry, and maybe one basalt.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, so those are three modern vases that I bought on eBay, like for 15 bucks, two onyx and one marble, and below are the two vases that Olga Vdovina made out in Russia manually.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, so those are three modern vases that I bought on eBay, like for 15 bucks, two onyx and one marble, and below are the two vases that Olga Vdovina made out in Russia manually.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, so those are three modern vases that I bought on eBay, like for 15 bucks, two onyx and one marble, and below are the two vases that Olga Vdovina made out in Russia manually.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, and I want to add a point about handles. So handles bother me a lot. Because they make analysis difficult, and I will return to it. But when you make a vase, you don't need a handle. And some of these vases are so small, handle is useless. So the reason that there are handles there is puzzling. And besides, most of those handles weren't originally drilled. They were drilled later.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, and I want to add a point about handles. So handles bother me a lot. Because they make analysis difficult, and I will return to it. But when you make a vase, you don't need a handle. And some of these vases are so small, handle is useless. So the reason that there are handles there is puzzling. And besides, most of those handles weren't originally drilled. They were drilled later.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, and I want to add a point about handles. So handles bother me a lot. Because they make analysis difficult, and I will return to it. But when you make a vase, you don't need a handle. And some of these vases are so small, handle is useless. So the reason that there are handles there is puzzling. And besides, most of those handles weren't originally drilled. They were drilled later.

Matt Beall Podcast
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So they're called lugs. And when I look at it, I say, well, I think those were like there to keep a vase in place somewhere. Like if I'm thinking about it as a machinery, maybe the vase was locked in place on those lugs and so it wouldn't shift. But I don't think it was like a handle for carrying or for aesthetic purposes, because as modern work shows, you don't need a handle.