Dr. Michael Grandner

It's a thing.

I mean, I don't do it, but not because I have any moral.

you know, opposition to it, but it's a thing where, where because they leverage the delay in, in the caffeine reaching its effectiveness.

So, and they, and they use that to limit their nap time, but we can talk about strategic napping.

Yeah.

Let's do that.

Okay.

That's the way, that's, that's the way I think about it.

It's like, they don't always work.

And other things may sedate you more faster.

But they're the things that are most likely to solve your problem long term with the least negative effects.

I would say focus more on starting the morning than timing your bedtime at the same time.

Because the morning will set up the evening and usually people have more control over that anyway.

Um, and the way I like to think about the evening is I think about sleep as my commute to tomorrow, where instead of thinking, so if you had to go to work, you don't think, well, I'm going to wake up when I want.

I'm going to do everything I need to do around the house, pay all my bills, do all the dishes, do all my chores.

And then when I happen to be done, hope that I make it into work in time.

And then like, shoot, I ran out of time.

Like that doesn't work.

Instead, what you do, you think, what time do I need to leave the house?

How long is it going to take me to get ready?