Dr. Michael Grandner

You know, there's this phenomenon in the hospital.

I mean, it's just, it's just, that's the shift work that's closest to my life where someone brings the box of donuts at the start of the shift and no one touches them because everyone knows that like they're bad for you.

But by the end of the shift, they're all gone.

Decision-making, it gets impaired, especially when, and what food is available in the middle of the night too.

What would happen if,

If we go into a shift working setting and set up palatable but healthy food, you know, why don't we have nighttime snacks that are just healthier, that feel good to eat, that satisfy those cravings, but just don't do the same kind of damage?

And why don't we make those available?

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know why this isn't, why everyone isn't doing this.

It seems obvious to me.

That's a good solution to not have it available.

Yeah, so the first thing for shift work is if you can keep a reliable shift, if you want to turn your day into night and make that permanent, that will actually minimize the damage.

You're just in a different time zone.

But if you stay in that time zone, it's the shifting around that causes the, it's the, it's the unsettling the system that causes the problem.

So the more, the more infrequently you keep shifting.

That's the problem.

But anyway, so, so napping, napping can be great.

Think of a nap like a snack, right?

where are snacks good for you or bad for you?

Well, it depends.