Dr. Michael Ormsbee

We haven't had any more pursuit of that answer. But with the product that you're talking about, I think that there are other things that could be done in that particular space because that's modified to be different, right? That's modified to be fast digesting.

We haven't had any more pursuit of that answer. But with the product that you're talking about, I think that there are other things that could be done in that particular space because that's modified to be different, right? That's modified to be fast digesting.

But I don't believe all the data. And I'd love to do a study with it because I think it's got a lot of potential and I know a lot of practitioners love it. But it was the same way with UCAN superstars. So there's something always to all these types of studies, especially with supplements. Like if you like it and you think it works, then it works. So we need to stay there.

But I don't believe all the data. And I'd love to do a study with it because I think it's got a lot of potential and I know a lot of practitioners love it. But it was the same way with UCAN superstars. So there's something always to all these types of studies, especially with supplements. Like if you like it and you think it works, then it works. So we need to stay there.

However, I'd love to do those comparison studies with photographer because I know some of the data were like, the first 10 minutes were extremely fast and everything stopped. And if you look at after the 10 minutes, then you have issues where it doesn't go any faster. But the net was still more. And so there's just questions I love to ask about in there.

However, I'd love to do those comparison studies with photographer because I know some of the data were like, the first 10 minutes were extremely fast and everything stopped. And if you look at after the 10 minutes, then you have issues where it doesn't go any faster. But the net was still more. And so there's just questions I love to ask about in there.

Yeah. And honestly, everybody that I know uses it tends to like it. I just, I would love it because the studies that I've read on the modifications, I'm just, it's not clear cut to me.

Yeah. And honestly, everybody that I know uses it tends to like it. I just, I would love it because the studies that I've read on the modifications, I'm just, it's not clear cut to me.

Or there's a different use for it. Totally. Yeah. So like these – the grants and the funding sometimes come from these companies. Most of the time. And that's how you would get work done on those. And that's a different conversation. If we want to have it, we can. But let's just say everything is kosher because that's how we run the facility.

Or there's a different use for it. Totally. Yeah. So like these – the grants and the funding sometimes come from these companies. Most of the time. And that's how you would get work done on those. And that's a different conversation. If we want to have it, we can. But let's just say everything is kosher because that's how we run the facility.

There's a lot of things you can look at with a different lens, like what sport works where you have not a lot of fuel for a long period of time. Maybe there's a use. Or maybe you're the age group athlete and you're not going to win and you don't want insulin spiking all the time in a race where you're out there for a long period of time. Then maybe that's a really good product.

There's a lot of things you can look at with a different lens, like what sport works where you have not a lot of fuel for a long period of time. Maybe there's a use. Or maybe you're the age group athlete and you're not going to win and you don't want insulin spiking all the time in a race where you're out there for a long period of time. Then maybe that's a really good product.

So there's different uses, different people. You've got to really just know the individual product.

So there's different uses, different people. You've got to really just know the individual product.

Right. So we began this work six years ago, and it was originally for the purpose of looking at dosing. When we looked at the literature before we began, there were a lot in like skin health care beauty space. And that dosing was like 5 to 10 grams a day. And they had like these fairly decent outcomes over many, many studies. And so I think there was some evidence in there.

Right. So we began this work six years ago, and it was originally for the purpose of looking at dosing. When we looked at the literature before we began, there were a lot in like skin health care beauty space. And that dosing was like 5 to 10 grams a day. And they had like these fairly decent outcomes over many, many studies. And so I think there was some evidence in there.

But then I was like, all right, I'm used to whey protein. What is going on with this? I'm used to like muscle outcomes or fat metab outcomes. body comp outcomes. There are one or two papers that actually showed that collagen had some benefit in that space, but they weren't compared to whey. They were compared to nothing.

But then I was like, all right, I'm used to whey protein. What is going on with this? I'm used to like muscle outcomes or fat metab outcomes. body comp outcomes. There are one or two papers that actually showed that collagen had some benefit in that space, but they weren't compared to whey. They were compared to nothing.

And it's in one lab. We're showing this and that kind of thing. So we always wondered, well, maybe these should be not compared or we have to look at what the outcome is. If you're looking at muscle, I wouldn't use collagen for muscle.

And it's in one lab. We're showing this and that kind of thing. So we always wondered, well, maybe these should be not compared or we have to look at what the outcome is. If you're looking at muscle, I wouldn't use collagen for muscle.