Perform with Dr. Andy Galpin
Dr. Michael Ormsbee: Food Timing, Nutrition & Supplements for Fat Loss, Muscle Growth & Recovery
02 Apr 2025
My guest is Dr. Michael Ormsbee, Ph.D., a professor of nutrition and integrative physiology and the director of the Institute of Sports Sciences and Medicine at Florida State University. We explore how pre-sleep nutrition affects fat metabolism, muscle growth, performance, and recovery, while helping individuals meet their daily protein goals without causing weight gain. We discuss what to eat at night, including different protein sources—whey, casein, and plant-based proteins—or carbohydrates, and explain whether whole foods or supplements are more beneficial. Additionally, we highlight the importance of resistance training and sufficient protein intake for long-term weight loss success and how collagen supplementation may reduce joint pain. We also examine the potential benefits of lesser-known supplements, including betaine, theacrine, and butyrate postbiotics. Whether you’re an athlete or simply looking to improve your health, listeners will learn how to optimize nutrition for enhanced performance, recovery, and weight management. Read the episode show notes at performpodcast.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/perform LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/perform Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/perform Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/perform Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Michael Ormsbee 00:01:42 Hockey, Triathlons; Nutrition 00:07:36 Sponsors: LMNT & Eight Sleep 00:10:20 Pre-Sleep Nutrition, Resting Metabolic Rate, Tool: Protein Intake Before Bed 00:16:51 Sleep, Microdialysis, Fat Metabolism 00:25:18 Pre-Sleep Nutrition, Metabolism, Protein Synthesis, Daily Protein Intake 00:32:18 Obesity, Weight Loss, Resistance Training, Reduced Muscle Loss 00:37:35 Sponsor: Momentous 00:39:13 Tool: Protein Requirements, Weight Management 00:43:30 Pre-Sleep Nutrition, Performance & Recovery, Nighttime Exercise 00:48:05 Protein Type, Whole Food vs Supplementation, Protein Synthesis 00:53:55 Pre-Sleep Nutrition & Age; Alpha-lactalbumin 00:59:10 Meal Size, Digestibility, Calorie Threshold & Sleep; Long-Term Fat Loss 01:06:00 Sponsor: AG1 01:07:25 Carbohydrates, Super-Starch, Performance & Pre-Sleep Nutrition 01:18:47 Research, Variables; Resistant Starches 01:24:59 Evaluating Research Types; Collagen, Joint Pain, Vitamin C 01:37:39 Collagen Supplementation, Exercise; Collagen Dose 01:44:19 What is Collagen?, Digestion 01:49:13 Glycine, Betaine, Thermoregulation, Exercise, Firefighters, Dose 01:56:46 Betaine, Hydration, Heat Tolerance & Future Research Directions 01:59:25 TeaCrine, Caffeine, Performance 02:04:23 Creatine, Vascular Health 02:06:45 Postbiotics, Gut Health, Butyrate, Sleep 02:10:24 Female Athletes, Recovery, Muscle Damage, Supplements 02:15:18 Upcoming Studies; Travel, Sleep & Performance 02:18:29 Research Grants & Funding, Conflicts of Interest, Data Evaluation 02:26:09 Courses, Testing Facilities 02:30:11 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Subscribe & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Social Media, Perform Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures
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the science and practice of enhancing human performance for sport, play, and life. Welcome to Perform. I'm Dr. Andy Galpin. I'm a professor and scientist and the executive director of the Human Performance Center at Parker University. Today, I'm going to be talking with my longtime friend, Dr. Mike Ormsby. Mike is a professor at Florida State University.
He is the director of the Institute of Sports Science and Medicine. Mike is a world-renowned expert in all things exercise physiology, supplementation, sports nutrition, and a whole host of other important and interesting topics that we'll get into in today's conversation. Mike has done a tremendous amount of work over the last 15 years, specifically in the area of pre-sleep nutrition.
And I could promise you we're going to get into some things that are Mike's lifelong passion and career that are counterintuitive to what most people think about what to eat and what not to eat prior to sleep. In fact, I'll give you a little bit of a spoiler alert.
He has some pretty compelling evidence over multiple studies that eating specific items in specific amounts prior to sleep is advantageous for not only sleep and recovery, but multiple other things as well.
The conversation was wide-ranging, but we'll cover many other things like a handful of supplements that people have not heard of that have interesting implications for a wide variety of performance and health-related outcomes. And so it was a fascinating conversation. I learned a lot from it. I've known Mike for a long time. I've known his work for a long time.
But there was a lot that I did not know about the work he's done and will be doing in the future. So here we go with Dr. Mike Ormsby. I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did. Dr. Mike Ormsby, thank you so much for coming out. I know it was a long trip this morning and I have a bunch of stuff I'm excited to talk to you about. But first, thank you so much for coming out.
You're welcome. Welcome. I've not been able to come over here and do some podcasting and hang out on this side of the country for a while. So for me, it's a pleasure. I appreciate the offer.
I love your research. I love a lot of the stuff that you've gotten into. So when we decided to officially have guests for Perform, I was like, Mike has got to be on the list and stoked to have you out here.
Appreciate it. I can't wait to get into some of this stuff because I love it. It's what I do day in and day out. And speaking to a bigger audience is a pleasure.
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