Dr. Michael Ormsbee

Anyway, when we were looking at this, the joint pain angles we were looking at, the bottom line is over nine months of time, we had subjective improvements in joint pain when you were in our study, but there were some caveats. 10 grams did better than 20. Interesting. 10 grams is better than 20.

Anyway, when we were looking at this, the joint pain angles we were looking at, the bottom line is over nine months of time, we had subjective improvements in joint pain when you were in our study, but there were some caveats. 10 grams did better than 20. Interesting. 10 grams is better than 20.

And when we dichotomized the amount of exercise you did, it was most helpful if you exercised for greater than 180 minutes per week of exercise. So with that said, in our hands, that was our outcome. Ten grams per day was the dose. Nine months was the timeline. We saw improvements in joint pain that were significant. And you had to exercise more than 180 minutes to feel those benefits.

And when we dichotomized the amount of exercise you did, it was most helpful if you exercised for greater than 180 minutes per week of exercise. So with that said, in our hands, that was our outcome. Ten grams per day was the dose. Nine months was the timeline. We saw improvements in joint pain that were significant. And you had to exercise more than 180 minutes to feel those benefits.

The cool relationship that we were – maybe should have expected but didn't is they – we did some – mood state assessments and such. And those people who had better knee pain actually had better improvements in mood, as you would expect, not in so much pain. So yeah, that changed my tune on it because I was unsure of it entirely.

The cool relationship that we were – maybe should have expected but didn't is they – we did some – mood state assessments and such. And those people who had better knee pain actually had better improvements in mood, as you would expect, not in so much pain. So yeah, that changed my tune on it because I was unsure of it entirely.

And then what we didn't measure, we always wish you had a better questionnaire or something. And people just talking to you after these studies and they're like, changed my life. Some of them, not all of them, but some of them were like, this was amazing. And I noticed that I came off of it for three months. Thing is, it takes a while. It's one of those things you have to take.

And then what we didn't measure, we always wish you had a better questionnaire or something. And people just talking to you after these studies and they're like, changed my life. Some of them, not all of them, but some of them were like, this was amazing. And I noticed that I came off of it for three months. Thing is, it takes a while. It's one of those things you have to take.

And then we started seeing differences around six months. And then they were sustained around nine months. So it took quite a while. But it's enough that as a middle-aged athlete, I've started implementing 10 grams a day. And in our study, we didn't even mix it with vitamin C, which is probably the recommended way. Like all Keith Barr's work is fascinating, and they're the best at it.

And then we started seeing differences around six months. And then they were sustained around nine months. So it took quite a while. But it's enough that as a middle-aged athlete, I've started implementing 10 grams a day. And in our study, we didn't even mix it with vitamin C, which is probably the recommended way. Like all Keith Barr's work is fascinating, and they're the best at it.

We were kind of late to the game and just wanted to have these joint pain outcomes specifically because there were evidence of it even in young athletes, like college athletes.

We were kind of late to the game and just wanted to have these joint pain outcomes specifically because there were evidence of it even in young athletes, like college athletes.

Of fixing joint pain. And they didn't even have joint pain to begin with. Our people all had joint pain, but no diagnosed osteoarthritis. And we saw these benefits. But even in young people, it was shown. So I think the benefit is there. I would take it separately from whey. I would use whey for my muscle building efforts. I would use collagen for my joint pain.

Of fixing joint pain. And they didn't even have joint pain to begin with. Our people all had joint pain, but no diagnosed osteoarthritis. And we saw these benefits. But even in young people, it was shown. So I think the benefit is there. I would take it separately from whey. I would use whey for my muscle building efforts. I would use collagen for my joint pain.

In other words – No, they came in a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were seeing them regularly monthly.

In other words – No, they came in a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were seeing them regularly monthly.

The cognitive surveys. Yeah. And at the time, we were doing body comp outcomes as well, obviously, with the DEXA and the bone. And then we also had – the actual like goniometer measures, but we had to basically throw it all away because it was just useless at the end, unfortunately.

The cognitive surveys. Yeah. And at the time, we were doing body comp outcomes as well, obviously, with the DEXA and the bone. And then we also had – the actual like goniometer measures, but we had to basically throw it all away because it was just useless at the end, unfortunately.

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