Dr. Mike Trangle

And it's more broken in behavioral health, I think, than anywhere else around.

And it's more broken in behavioral health, I think, than anywhere else around.

Yeah. I mean, the ones that people notice, you know, are somebody that has a psychotic episode and acts strange and scary, talks to themselves. But in a lot of ways, if you're depressed, you know, most people, not, not, not everybody, but most people kind of shut down, you know, and, and they, they, they lose their, they lose their optimism. They lose their energy. Their sleep is affected.

Yeah. I mean, the ones that people notice, you know, are somebody that has a psychotic episode and acts strange and scary, talks to themselves. But in a lot of ways, if you're depressed, you know, most people, not, not, not everybody, but most people kind of shut down, you know, and, and they, they, they lose their, they lose their optimism. They lose their energy. Their sleep is affected.

They're, they get totally pessimistic. They, they may show up at work, but not think or do anything that speak up. They may just stay at home and they sort of fall into isolation and you may not know them because they're not, you're not seeing them anymore, you know? And, and, you know, um, how do I want to say this?

They're, they get totally pessimistic. They, they may show up at work, but not think or do anything that speak up. They may just stay at home and they sort of fall into isolation and you may not know them because they're not, you're not seeing them anymore, you know? And, and, you know, um, how do I want to say this?

Uh, there's such an interrelation between people that I, I'm a, I'm a woman and I get depressed. You might be a little more like a woman that's really upset about something. You may be a little bit more likely to get depressed. If you're a guy, you might be drinking more or using drugs more. And it shows up that way, you know, it's cause and effect both ways, you know, but, uh, um, and, and, um,

Uh, there's such an interrelation between people that I, I'm a, I'm a woman and I get depressed. You might be a little more like a woman that's really upset about something. You may be a little bit more likely to get depressed. If you're a guy, you might be drinking more or using drugs more. And it shows up that way, you know, it's cause and effect both ways, you know, but, uh, um, and, and, um,

You know, we don't really have a good way of measuring all the suicides. It's always undercounted. You know, some car accidents, some overdoses, you know, that kind of stuff. It's they're not really accidents always, you know. Yeah.

You know, we don't really have a good way of measuring all the suicides. It's always undercounted. You know, some car accidents, some overdoses, you know, that kind of stuff. It's they're not really accidents always, you know. Yeah.

I think people, how do I want to say this? People are reticent and avoid asking people because of the shame and stigma and just discomfort.

I think people, how do I want to say this? People are reticent and avoid asking people because of the shame and stigma and just discomfort.

And, and if you have somebody you care about and you kind of know, I think it would be great if you sort of say, you know, I noticed you're not your normal self these days, you know, it's something going on or, you know, you're doing okay, you know, and, and just shut up and listen, see what they have to say, allow them to talk and, and, um, You don't have to cure them.

And, and if you have somebody you care about and you kind of know, I think it would be great if you sort of say, you know, I noticed you're not your normal self these days, you know, it's something going on or, you know, you're doing okay, you know, and, and just shut up and listen, see what they have to say, allow them to talk and, and, um, You don't have to cure them.

You don't have to this and that, but you don't. Most people welcome being asked and somebody reaching out in a sort of a supportive, neutral way. And then maybe you can problem. You don't have to cure. You know, you don't have to be an expert, but you can reach out, let them know they're not alone. You notice something could be an entree. Maybe you should get some help.

You don't have to this and that, but you don't. Most people welcome being asked and somebody reaching out in a sort of a supportive, neutral way. And then maybe you can problem. You don't have to cure. You know, you don't have to be an expert, but you can reach out, let them know they're not alone. You notice something could be an entree. Maybe you should get some help.

But if you don't reach out and just sort of try to begin a conversation, not in a blaming, shaming way, but in a supportive, I care about you way.

But if you don't reach out and just sort of try to begin a conversation, not in a blaming, shaming way, but in a supportive, I care about you way.

Exactly. You know, you know, and actually ask them what they how are they doing?

Exactly. You know, you know, and actually ask them what they how are they doing?