Dr. Mim Ari

Um,

But hopefully those relationships ultimately benefit the patient.

Absolutely.

You know, sometimes it is like retrospective.

So, you know, someone will say, I was having all these symptoms and we did an evaluation and we didn't really find anything.

And they'll say, you know, I think it was my anxiety.

I think some people, it's like very obvious it's the work that's causing them to have stress or anxiety or physical manifestations or physical symptoms.

Because

They'll tell you and they'll narrate their day and you can hear where those sticking points are.

They're having pain, but yet they're required to stand for many, many hours or not have breaks or they're in physically demanding jobs that are very challenging and

sometimes if people tell me they're like stressed or tired, or they're just like not feeling so good.

And like, I'll say like, just like walk me through a normal day.

And when they get to the end, I think sometimes it's really affirming to say like, you know, I would probably feel really tired too, if that was like what I was, you know, trying to manage on a daily basis.

And that was how little sleep I was getting.

And that was how many people I was responsible for taking care of.

And those were the requirements of me at work.

Like,

Those are kind of, I think, external circumstances that are making you feel the way that you feel right now.

Yeah, and I think that's a great summary.

And the thing I would add is just the intrinsic motivation part.