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Dr. Morris Chang

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
400 total appearances

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

Manufacturing, I thought we were better than Intel. And customer trust, we thought that our customers trusted us more than Intel's customers, customers Intel. So, I wasn't too worried. But then indeed, and I also thought that when Jeff Williams told me the highest level of Intel, I thought he was talking about somebody like Andy Grove, who was retired of course.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

Manufacturing, I thought we were better than Intel. And customer trust, we thought that our customers trusted us more than Intel's customers, customers Intel. So, I wasn't too worried. But then indeed, and I also thought that when Jeff Williams told me the highest level of Intel, I thought he was talking about somebody like Andy Grove, who was retired of course.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

But it turned out that he was only talking about the CEO of Intel at that time. Yeah. But I knew that only later.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

But it turned out that he was only talking about the CEO of Intel at that time. Yeah. But I knew that only later.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

No, it was the Italian guy. Ottolini. Paul Ottolini. Ottolini. Got it.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

No, it was the Italian guy. Ottolini. Paul Ottolini. Ottolini. Got it.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

Yeah. All right. I wasn't too worried, but it still was in my mind. So a month passed. I think it was about the middle of February when Jeff called to tell me to pause for two months. So almost exactly a month later, March, middle of March sometime, I decided that I would pay them a visit. and ask them what's going on, any progress. So I emailed Jeff and asked for an appointment.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

Yeah. All right. I wasn't too worried, but it still was in my mind. So a month passed. I think it was about the middle of February when Jeff called to tell me to pause for two months. So almost exactly a month later, March, middle of March sometime, I decided that I would pay them a visit. and ask them what's going on, any progress. So I emailed Jeff and asked for an appointment.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

I said I was coming to the Silicon Valley anyway, which was pretty normal. and stop in at your place on such and such a day. Is that okay? And Jeff replied by saying that, yeah, come here, but I won't be here. I have asked Tim Cook to see you. I mean, this freedom, Jeff's freedom of delegating his boss to see a visitor, it was a privilege that I seldom had in my career, you know.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

I said I was coming to the Silicon Valley anyway, which was pretty normal. and stop in at your place on such and such a day. Is that okay? And Jeff replied by saying that, yeah, come here, but I won't be here. I have asked Tim Cook to see you. I mean, this freedom, Jeff's freedom of delegating his boss to see a visitor, it was a privilege that I seldom had in my career, you know.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

I know, I know. It was usually that way. It was usually the other way. But in this case, it was Jeff S., Well, anyway, so I showed up and Tim was very nice to me and took me to lunch or to the cafeteria, I guess, where there was a lot of food. We each picked our food and carried our tray back to his office, you know.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

I know, I know. It was usually that way. It was usually the other way. But in this case, it was Jeff S., Well, anyway, so I showed up and Tim was very nice to me and took me to lunch or to the cafeteria, I guess, where there was a lot of food. We each picked our food and carried our tray back to his office, you know.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

And anyway, he told me, there's nothing to worry about because Intel just does not know how to be a fountain. That's a very short, but a very satisfactory answer to me.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

And anyway, he told me, there's nothing to worry about because Intel just does not know how to be a fountain. That's a very short, but a very satisfactory answer to me.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

I was explaining to you that we had on technology, on manufacturing. Subconsciously, I think, I interpreted Jeff's explanation to me to be the third one, customer trust. I mean, they were always very superior, you know, Intel. Before this Apple thing, Apple and we, before Apple became our customer, I knew a lot of Intel's customers in Taiwan. You know, all the PC makers are Intel's customers.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

I was explaining to you that we had on technology, on manufacturing. Subconsciously, I think, I interpreted Jeff's explanation to me to be the third one, customer trust. I mean, they were always very superior, you know, Intel. Before this Apple thing, Apple and we, before Apple became our customer, I knew a lot of Intel's customers in Taiwan. You know, all the PC makers are Intel's customers.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

None of them liked Intel. None of them. Intel always acted like they were the only guy. They were the only guy for the microprocessors.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

None of them liked Intel. None of them. Intel always acted like they were the only guy. They were the only guy for the microprocessors.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

Yeah, but I really don't think Tim meant that. I think he meant that the customer asks a lot of things. We have learned to respond to every request. Some of them were crazy. Some of them were irrational. We had to respond to each request courteously, which we do. Intel has never done that. Intel, I mean, I said I knew a lot of customers of Intel's here in Taiwan.

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TSMC Founder Morris Chang

Yeah, but I really don't think Tim meant that. I think he meant that the customer asks a lot of things. We have learned to respond to every request. Some of them were crazy. Some of them were irrational. We had to respond to each request courteously, which we do. Intel has never done that. Intel, I mean, I said I knew a lot of customers of Intel's here in Taiwan.