Dr. Owen Rees
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So they clearly hold some sort of prestige to it, probably because of how expensive they would have been.
Yeah, it's that river network I was talking about. That's how things travel so quickly and so effortlessly north through it. As I said, Bilsk is perfectly situated to combine so many different trade networks around Eurasia. So it would actually have been quite simple, whether it be by boat or carts. I personally wouldn't do that. I would get on the water and do it quicker.
Yeah, it's that river network I was talking about. That's how things travel so quickly and so effortlessly north through it. As I said, Bilsk is perfectly situated to combine so many different trade networks around Eurasia. So it would actually have been quite simple, whether it be by boat or carts. I personally wouldn't do that. I would get on the water and do it quicker.
Yeah, it's that river network I was talking about. That's how things travel so quickly and so effortlessly north through it. As I said, Bilsk is perfectly situated to combine so many different trade networks around Eurasia. So it would actually have been quite simple, whether it be by boat or carts. I personally wouldn't do that. I would get on the water and do it quicker.
And of course, Greek traders, this is what they do. This is all they ever do. They know how to go around environments. They know how to find the best marketplaces. They know how to sell their wares to people. This is why we see Greek objects such as fine pottery, such as wine and foray, much further beyond the cultural boundaries of the Greek world.
And of course, Greek traders, this is what they do. This is all they ever do. They know how to go around environments. They know how to find the best marketplaces. They know how to sell their wares to people. This is why we see Greek objects such as fine pottery, such as wine and foray, much further beyond the cultural boundaries of the Greek world.
And of course, Greek traders, this is what they do. This is all they ever do. They know how to go around environments. They know how to find the best marketplaces. They know how to sell their wares to people. This is why we see Greek objects such as fine pottery, such as wine and foray, much further beyond the cultural boundaries of the Greek world.
Because, you know, it's very easy for us to kind of think, oh, well, it's because Greek culture is so enticing. Everyone wants it. Whereas, you know, really, some of this has to come down to the fact that the Greeks are really good at pushing their stuff. They're very good at convincing everyone you want this. So it would not have been difficult for them at all.
Because, you know, it's very easy for us to kind of think, oh, well, it's because Greek culture is so enticing. Everyone wants it. Whereas, you know, really, some of this has to come down to the fact that the Greeks are really good at pushing their stuff. They're very good at convincing everyone you want this. So it would not have been difficult for them at all.
Because, you know, it's very easy for us to kind of think, oh, well, it's because Greek culture is so enticing. Everyone wants it. Whereas, you know, really, some of this has to come down to the fact that the Greeks are really good at pushing their stuff. They're very good at convincing everyone you want this. So it would not have been difficult for them at all.
So, you know, we're obviously talking about the more foreign goods to the Greeks as well with these Egyptian items. But also, you know, wine, the pottery I was talking about, fine pottery, this is all found in and around what is now Ukraine. I mean, so much so, wine is a really interesting one because the Scythians don't produce wine themselves.
So, you know, we're obviously talking about the more foreign goods to the Greeks as well with these Egyptian items. But also, you know, wine, the pottery I was talking about, fine pottery, this is all found in and around what is now Ukraine. I mean, so much so, wine is a really interesting one because the Scythians don't produce wine themselves.
So, you know, we're obviously talking about the more foreign goods to the Greeks as well with these Egyptian items. But also, you know, wine, the pottery I was talking about, fine pottery, this is all found in and around what is now Ukraine. I mean, so much so, wine is a really interesting one because the Scythians don't produce wine themselves.
So all the wine they have comes to them from Greece and possibly Persia as well. And yet the Greeks consider the Scythians heavy drunks. So they drink wine wrong. So they drink wine without water added to it. So Greek wine is made to a particular strength. Not that strong, to be fair. We're talking maybe 9% to 12% as it is now. But in ancient Greece, you add water to that.
So all the wine they have comes to them from Greece and possibly Persia as well. And yet the Greeks consider the Scythians heavy drunks. So they drink wine wrong. So they drink wine without water added to it. So Greek wine is made to a particular strength. Not that strong, to be fair. We're talking maybe 9% to 12% as it is now. But in ancient Greece, you add water to that.
So all the wine they have comes to them from Greece and possibly Persia as well. And yet the Greeks consider the Scythians heavy drunks. So they drink wine wrong. So they drink wine without water added to it. So Greek wine is made to a particular strength. Not that strong, to be fair. We're talking maybe 9% to 12% as it is now. But in ancient Greece, you add water to that.
And the amount of water you're having kind of determines the sort of sophistication of what's going on. And the Scythians were renowned for drinking without adding water. And so you get this description in Greek writing as drinking Scythian wine, which is basically unwatered down. So you're going to be a drunken sod.
And the amount of water you're having kind of determines the sort of sophistication of what's going on. And the Scythians were renowned for drinking without adding water. And so you get this description in Greek writing as drinking Scythian wine, which is basically unwatered down. So you're going to be a drunken sod.
And the amount of water you're having kind of determines the sort of sophistication of what's going on. And the Scythians were renowned for drinking without adding water. And so you get this description in Greek writing as drinking Scythian wine, which is basically unwatered down. So you're going to be a drunken sod.
You're going to basically get, for want of a better word in English vernacular, you're going to get bladdered. And I just find it really interesting that it holds this reputation as a society that they can't drink properly. They're barbaric. Look at them. And it's an item. It is a drink given to them by the Greeks. Completely pissed Scythians.