Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
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I said I would not accept an endorsement that firstly, I wasn't part of that analysis. And secondly, I wasn't sure that analysis is based on facts rather than speculation.
I have very strong feelings about some of them. When the president-elect nominated Robert Kennedy, there was this furor around Robert Kennedy. Having said that, what he says is fundamentally correct. We have huge amounts of toxic materials. We have a rising incidence of cancer. He was the first to announce about PFAS we can talk about.
I've been studying for the last five years the coloring and toxic materials in the food that causes cancer. My concern in life or my entire career was to find a cure for cancer. And I was beginning to see in a slam, beginning to see the higher incidence of cancer in young people. And I think the underlying basis of that is all the chemicals that we are eating, drinking.
And we can talk a little bit about that. My other concern was with regard to the care of a patient, you really cannot have the touch and feel of from some academic bureaucrat versus somebody who has actually touched and felt patients. And when he nominated Dr. Marty Makary, a Johns Hopkins surgeon, as the FDA head, that was such a breath of fresh air.
When he nominated Dr. Mehmet Oz, who was a cardiothoracic surgeon, that was such a breath of fresh air. And what it speaks to is the level of competence. I think unless you have competence, the combination of competence and real world experience about real world patients lives, and how it affects Americans lives, you really would end up with a bureaucratic mess.
And when I tweeted that about that was an inspired choice. I think again, I got positive and negative. But I think I need to go out now on programs like this and have no sort of short soundbites. I need to give complex insights into complex issues that affect our healthcare. And I think if anybody can bring change at the level of the HHS and downstream, it's Robert Kennedy.
I think without getting political, if you look at the current HHS, There's no different, maybe even less competence in the current HHS secretary. I say that at high risk because our approvals is dependent on the HHS secretary understanding the importance of the decisions that's being made in the pharmaceutical industry. Yes, I think it is an inspired choice.
I think he ran truly on the basis of looking out for the welfare and health of all Americans and most importantly of children and this next generation of children and grandchildren who are being affected by the toxins that we have in our food and in our water and in our farmlands and how we can
not only address that, but reduce what I'm really concerned about, the higher incidence of cancer occurring in younger people and healthier people.
Okay, let's go through one at a time. It is remarkable that since 2012 there are very, very strong, good scientific papers that showed these yellow and blue and red dyes are carcinogenic. Very strong papers. So it is a settled science that these chemicals are carcinogenic.
It is also a settled science that the chemicals that you and I use as Scotchgard or on our clothing or on non-stick pans called PFAS is carcinogenic. Yet we are the only country in the world, to my knowledge, compared to Europe, that have not banned these chemicals or regulated these chemicals in our food and allowed them to happen.
We're the only country in the world that has never measured this thing, PFAS, that's in the ground and uses fertilizers and in the milk. The consequences of that is three, five, ten years of consuming this kind of food in everything we do.
is we are now seeing, and I don't want to scare the world, but I'm speaking to all my colleagues at University of California, San Francisco, at Mount Sinai, at Oxford, and we are now seeing eight-year-old, 10-year-old, 11-year-old children with colon cancer. I've just treated a young 13-year-old child with metastatic pancreatic cancer who sadly just passed away.
I've never in my career seen now so many young, healthy people with colon cancer. I'm about to treat a 22 year old young lady with metastatic colon cancer. We have to ask ourselves the question, why are we seeing this in our nation? And I just tweeted the longevity life cycle of Americans compared to the rest of the world. Places like Italy, UK, Europe. And you see the curve of us.
We have one of the lowest lifespan per capita to spend than the rest of the world. This is so unacceptable. And I think it is a consequence of the inactivity or unawareness, if that's an English word, and the lack of action that's happened at the highest level at HHS.
So let me give you this idea of red meat. I would refer you to, and again, I tweeted about that, and the News Nation did this story on PFAS. Even to me, studying all these chemicals for the last 10 years of my career,
I was unaware that the EPA never measured PFAS, allowed the PFAS coming out of the chemical factories making PFAS, put it together as sludge and place it as fertilizer across the land of the United States, which means all our cattle, all our dairy cows have PFAS at such a massive levels, either in the meat or in the milk.
If it's true what that program said, and we need to go validate that, but that's what was claimed in that program, that 97% of Americans have a PFAS level higher than what is normal or safe, then yes, the meat that we eat, it's like the salmon. Everybody thinks fish was fantastic except until they found it had mercury. The milk that we drink, if it's filled with PFAS,
Why are we not addressing it by actually just studying it? And I think this is the conflation that when I listen to the criticism of Robert Kennedy, where he is saying, let's just study it and understand the facts and understand the data. We talk about the polio vaccine. He wants to just study it, but it's not the polio stock vaccine. He's talking about a different vaccine.
He's talking about a vaccine that is generated out of a cancer cell, a monkey cancer cell that has never been studied. So I think the complexity of this issue needs to be raised, not in a soundbite, but we need to break it down. So you could say red meat, yeah, but what's in that red meat? Is it PFAS? Well, the problem is we've never measured it.
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