Dr Paul Eastwick

Yeah.

I think that's fair.

I am not using the standard like this is not a standard nature nurture thing.

That's not where I'm coming from.

I'm coming from a place of actually there's a different way of talking about human nature, a different way of talking about the way that humans evolved to form relationships that I think is kind of missing out there.

And that's more or less why I wrote the book.

Yeah.

So I would say I'm a scholar of close relationships.

There's a whole field.

We call ourselves relationship science.

We're largely in the social and personality psychological tradition, but there are threads that connect to things like clinical psychology, family studies, things like that.

So we are informed by an evolutionary perspective too.

It's just a different one.

So, for example, we talk about attachment perspectives a lot and attachment has very deep evolutionary roots going back to Bowlby and so forth.

But it's just a little different from the standard evolutionary psychological perspective.

That's interesting.

Yeah, I think it overestimates a few things.

It exaggerates some features of human mating.

And it's only in a few cases where I'm like, oh, it's totally off the mark.

But I think there's a big emphasis on things like mate value, the idea that some people are more desirable than others.