Dr. Paul Offit

show that you have no relationship to a pharmaceutical company and no relationship with the government. You're an independent advisory committee. I think those discussions are generally really good. I think people are trying to get it right. They don't always get it right, but I think they're trying.

Well, so the FDA has to license a product, and then it goes to the CDC to decide whether or not to recommend it. So sometimes they'll license something that doesn't necessarily recommend it. Why does that happen? Well, so the Lyme vaccine would be an example of that. So late 90s, early 2000s with the Lyme vaccine.

Well, so the FDA has to license a product, and then it goes to the CDC to decide whether or not to recommend it. So sometimes they'll license something that doesn't necessarily recommend it. Why does that happen? Well, so the Lyme vaccine would be an example of that. So late 90s, early 2000s with the Lyme vaccine.

Well, so the FDA has to license a product, and then it goes to the CDC to decide whether or not to recommend it. So sometimes they'll license something that doesn't necessarily recommend it. Why does that happen? Well, so the Lyme vaccine would be an example of that. So late 90s, early 2000s with the Lyme vaccine.

So that was a licensed product, but it got a very soft recommendation from the CDC, which was that it could be considered for use, basically. Normally, when it's recommended, should is the word they use when it's recommended.

So that was a licensed product, but it got a very soft recommendation from the CDC, which was that it could be considered for use, basically. Normally, when it's recommended, should is the word they use when it's recommended.

So that was a licensed product, but it got a very soft recommendation from the CDC, which was that it could be considered for use, basically. Normally, when it's recommended, should is the word they use when it's recommended.

When they give it a very soft recommendation, it could be considered for use for people who live in high-risk areas where the bacteria is circulating and engage in high-risk activities, like walking outside in the summer. You know, that would be a high-risk activity. So I just, I don't... I thought that that vaccine was sort of killed with a soft recommendation. Fair.

When they give it a very soft recommendation, it could be considered for use for people who live in high-risk areas where the bacteria is circulating and engage in high-risk activities, like walking outside in the summer. You know, that would be a high-risk activity. So I just, I don't... I thought that that vaccine was sort of killed with a soft recommendation. Fair.

When they give it a very soft recommendation, it could be considered for use for people who live in high-risk areas where the bacteria is circulating and engage in high-risk activities, like walking outside in the summer. You know, that would be a high-risk activity. So I just, I don't... I thought that that vaccine was sort of killed with a soft recommendation. Fair.

In a better world, you wouldn't need to mandate vaccines. People would be fully informed. I mean, I would argue that in December of 2020, having read those 800 pages on the Pfizer-Moderna vaccine, I was a fully informed citizen. One of the few. Could not wait to get that vaccine.

In a better world, you wouldn't need to mandate vaccines. People would be fully informed. I mean, I would argue that in December of 2020, having read those 800 pages on the Pfizer-Moderna vaccine, I was a fully informed citizen. One of the few. Could not wait to get that vaccine.

In a better world, you wouldn't need to mandate vaccines. People would be fully informed. I mean, I would argue that in December of 2020, having read those 800 pages on the Pfizer-Moderna vaccine, I was a fully informed citizen. One of the few. Could not wait to get that vaccine.

So in the better world, people would get the right kind of information, the correct scientific information and make the right decision. But we don't live in that world. So people are making a decision not to do that.

So in the better world, people would get the right kind of information, the correct scientific information and make the right decision. But we don't live in that world. So people are making a decision not to do that.

So in the better world, people would get the right kind of information, the correct scientific information and make the right decision. But we don't live in that world. So people are making a decision not to do that.

I can tell you, I think if we did not have school vaccine mandates, you would start to see what you're seeing, which is the CDC recently put out data showing that there's clearly been an erosion in school vaccine mandates from people choosing non-medical exemptions, philosophical, religious exemptions. So you're going from like 95% to 93% to 92%. And with that, what are you seeing?

I can tell you, I think if we did not have school vaccine mandates, you would start to see what you're seeing, which is the CDC recently put out data showing that there's clearly been an erosion in school vaccine mandates from people choosing non-medical exemptions, philosophical, religious exemptions. So you're going from like 95% to 93% to 92%. And with that, what are you seeing?

I can tell you, I think if we did not have school vaccine mandates, you would start to see what you're seeing, which is the CDC recently put out data showing that there's clearly been an erosion in school vaccine mandates from people choosing non-medical exemptions, philosophical, religious exemptions. So you're going from like 95% to 93% to 92%. And with that, what are you seeing?

You're seeing that we've gone from 50 cases of measles last year to 200 this year. We have had more than 200 deaths from flu in children this year, which is very high. You've had a almost five-fold increase in whooping cough. We went from 3,000 cases last year to 17,000 this year.