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Dr. Penny Spikins

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
95 total appearances

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Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

Oh, that's a fantastic question.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

Well, I think it depends how you define medical care, because actually we might not be the only species that have medical care if you're quite broad about your definition.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

Because when we look at our sort of cousins, chimpanzees, our nearest living cousins, chimpanzees, with whom we share a common ancestor sort of seven to eight million years ago,

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

They have some practices that we might begin to call medical care.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

That is like, you know, if they've got internal parasites, they can pick some really, really sort of spiky leaves to eat deliberately to kind of flush out those internal parasites.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

And they can also use leaves to kind of as wound dressings, not just on themselves, but on other chimps.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

So it may be that actually when you say how far back does it go, it's like, ooh, could be more than seven to eight million years, really.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

Well, some of our best practices

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

early evidence comes from about 1.7, 1.8 million years ago.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

And that's when we see, you know, a homo gaster in Kenya, KMNE, 1813, she'd had hypervitaminosis.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

Now we don't quite know

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

how she got that, but she was really, you know, she was in a lot of pain, probably unconscious for various periods for several weeks, perhaps even months.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

And she couldn't possibly have survived that long without others helping her.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

So I think we can really take back some of those examples to at least one and a half million years ago, perhaps 2 million years ago,

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

which actually is really early when we think about our evolutionary past.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

That's when we first start to say this is what we call human, you know, members of the genus Homo.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

And it begins to make us think, doesn't it, that perhaps it's actually quite critical to how we evolved.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

Perhaps caring for others wasn't just a side thing.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

It might have been really important to perhaps even what made us successful if it goes back that early.

Science Friday
How did Neanderthals deal with illness and injuries?

I mean, I'm surprised by how much we see abolition, but I am quite surprised by what keeps coming up.

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