Dr. Peter McCullough

Yeah, and now we can start to look at these things honestly and carefully and do the usual back and forth through the medical literature where somebody will disagree strongly with this and have an alternative position and we'll see, and we will eventually get to the truth. Right now, it's very, very concerning. What are you showing me there?

Yeah, and now we can start to look at these things honestly and carefully and do the usual back and forth through the medical literature where somebody will disagree strongly with this and have an alternative position and we'll see, and we will eventually get to the truth. Right now, it's very, very concerning. What are you showing me there?

It's please ask Dr. McCullough about, I understand why I would do that. Okay.

It's please ask Dr. McCullough about, I understand why I would do that. Okay.

Okay. Something about phosphates, kidney disease, and heart disease. Is that an early paper you published before COVID or since COVID?

Okay. Something about phosphates, kidney disease, and heart disease. Is that an early paper you published before COVID or since COVID?

I've had a great interest in how kidney disease contributes to cardiovascular disease, and indeed it does. And I'll just say parenthetically, we're presented with quite a proposition right now, and you and I have talked about it off-camera, And that is the widespread use of GLP-1 receptor agonists, like Ozempic-like drugs.

I've had a great interest in how kidney disease contributes to cardiovascular disease, and indeed it does. And I'll just say parenthetically, we're presented with quite a proposition right now, and you and I have talked about it off-camera, And that is the widespread use of GLP-1 receptor agonists, like Ozempic-like drugs.

And, you know, they are now, there's a paper out in JAMA indicating that, you know, half of the nation would have an indication for one of these drugs. And I use them very selectively. But I do have to tell you, there are positive data for both kidney and heart outcomes using these drugs.

And, you know, they are now, there's a paper out in JAMA indicating that, you know, half of the nation would have an indication for one of these drugs. And I use them very selectively. But I do have to tell you, there are positive data for both kidney and heart outcomes using these drugs.

Oh, of course. If it's proper medicine, proper patient, proper treatment, better outcomes. It's just the widespread indiscriminate use of anything. that how you harm people.

Oh, of course. If it's proper medicine, proper patient, proper treatment, better outcomes. It's just the widespread indiscriminate use of anything. that how you harm people.

Every case has got to be evaluated in the context of the potential reward and the potential risks to that patient in the context of their socio-historical, ethical, religious, family, all that has to be taken into consideration. We've gotten to this weird phase where everybody has to get everything the same. It just doesn't work like that in medicine.

Every case has got to be evaluated in the context of the potential reward and the potential risks to that patient in the context of their socio-historical, ethical, religious, family, all that has to be taken into consideration. We've gotten to this weird phase where everybody has to get everything the same. It just doesn't work like that in medicine.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. If we've learned anything from the pandemic, we have to individualize. What's coming out of these Senate hearings is, you know what? People want to make their own choices. They don't want to be presented with a mandate of any type.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. If we've learned anything from the pandemic, we have to individualize. What's coming out of these Senate hearings is, you know what? People want to make their own choices. They don't want to be presented with a mandate of any type.

And, you know, Robert F. Kennedy and DHS, they're not going to take away medicines or vaccines, but they probably will advocate for medical freedom.

And, you know, Robert F. Kennedy and DHS, they're not going to take away medicines or vaccines, but they probably will advocate for medical freedom.

I think that's true. Let's leave it there, Dr. McCullough. We appreciate as always as being here. What's that, Susan? Get on your mic.

I think that's true. Let's leave it there, Dr. McCullough. We appreciate as always as being here. What's that, Susan? Get on your mic.