Dr. Rachel Rubin

And the clitoris isn't even discussed in OBGYN sort of training.

So you all.

And we know that there's one.

So, yeah.

We kind of know that top part.

But if you look at CREOG, which is sort of your check marks of what I must know to graduate as a resident.

I was a former program director.

I was in charge of the CREOG guidelines to make sure that we were covering all the lectures to hit all of the points.

And the clitoris was not a part of it.

And what I understand and what I've heard is the word clitoris does not appear on any of those, you know, sort of segments.

And so you have to understand.

So it just isn't in the routine discussions of, you know, what women have with their doctors.

And yet with because of Viagra, because of sexual medicine in men, because of the pioneering research and work that people have done in this space, it has become just bread and butter urology.

Right.

But it doesn't just happen.

It happens because people made it happen, because researchers made it happen, because money made it happen, because Pfizer made it happen.

Right.

They saw an economic opportunity.

That's why it happened.

And so when we dismiss women, when we say it is all, you know, again, we have incredible, incredible psychosocial research for women about sex therapy, about mindfulness, about cognitive behavioral therapy, because there are strong, powerful women in those fields that do the research.