Dr. Rachel Rubin

and the toolbox to tinker with and play with until we get to what's right for you.

And we don't hit it out of the park every time.

I wish we did, right?

It is not the same for each person, which is actually why menopause medicine is a little bit challenging because it is not a one size fits all and not everyone needs the same thing in the same way.

But I find and that's why I sort of I love I love estrogen and progesterone.

I love testosterone, too, because I can't unsee what I see in my clinic every day, which is about four to six months into their chest.

It's not right away.

It takes about four to six months of testosterone.

I told the story to you earlier.

I had a neighbor who was walking her dog and ran up to me on the street and said, Dr. Rubin, my testosterone finally kicked in.

She'd been doing great on estrogen and progesterone.

She said, my testosterone finally kicked in.

I said, oh, fabulous.

How long did it take?

She said, five months.

I said, great.

I said, so what's up?

She said, oh, I quit my job.

I said, oh, she said, because I'm starting my own thing.

She was so powerful.