Dr. Rachel Rubin

You know, these reimbursement rates favor procedures and not talking.

Dermatologists make so much money, not because they're sitting there talking to a patient, because they're literally every, every patient is a procedure.

And like OBGYNs make money doing, delivering babies and doing surgeries and procedures.

Like your real woman exam pays $30 to the doctor.

People just want to feel better.

So people don't want to hear doctors complain and doctors be upset and have burnout.

But the reality is, is we live in an economic society.

We live in a capitalistic society.

And your doctor has to make money in order to feed their family.

And the hospital system has to make money to stay, keep the lights on and to keep paying everybody.

And so the math has to map.

And so when we're talking about that, your sexual health is never going to make the math math.

What makes the math math is the orthopedic surgeries and the neurosurgeries and the deliveries and things like that.

And so we cannot have this conversation without the bigger conversation of your insurance company doesn't want to pay for it.

They don't want to pay for your—so it becomes how can we support sexual health and quality of life.

But they're paying for men.

Not as—they are, yes.

Viagra?

Yes, but even that can get actually, no, and it's, right, it's actually limited too.

In fact, I wish, again, I wish I could say, Ben, have it all easier.