Dr. Rachel Rubin

And when we left that meeting in 2024, the public person at the FDA whispered in our ears, she's an amazing woman, she whispered in our ears, she goes, go get loud.

She said, go get loud, go to the mattresses, get loud, get your congresspeople involved.

And that's what we did.

We got we got so loud.

And thank you for all of your loud voice.

We needed everybody.

And we got loud and we did advocacy and we had petitions and we got people.

We talked to our legislative people.

We just got loud.

The journalists got involved.

And then, right, again, in 2025, Marty McCary said, this is something that's important to me.

And he got on every news channel.

The head of the FDA got on every news channel and said hormone therapy is important.

And these labeling do not make sense.

And we're removing them.

And so, again, testosterone had a warning label for men.

OK, this is important.

Testosterone had a warning label put on and the warning label said it would cause stroke, blood clots, cardiovascular disease problems.

There was an advisory panel to put the label on.

So people met, they talked about it, they put it on.