Dr. Ram Yogendra
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um something inside of me said you know what maybe things are going to change not just in this country but in the world and maybe we can have some of these difficult conversations and exactly a week later i submitted the paper to a a well a reputable journal um and I said, all right, let's give it a shot. Let's see if the tide has changed. And this was November 12th now.
um something inside of me said you know what maybe things are going to change not just in this country but in the world and maybe we can have some of these difficult conversations and exactly a week later i submitted the paper to a a well a reputable journal um and I said, all right, let's give it a shot. Let's see if the tide has changed. And this was November 12th now.
I officially submitted the paper back to peer review. Two months later, the journal wrote back to me saying, we are still having a difficulty finding reviewers. In fact, here's the funny thing about this. They sent Bruce Patterson an invitation to peer review our own paper.
I officially submitted the paper back to peer review. Two months later, the journal wrote back to me saying, we are still having a difficulty finding reviewers. In fact, here's the funny thing about this. They sent Bruce Patterson an invitation to peer review our own paper.
That's how desperate, you know, they just couldn't find a reviewer. But finally we did, we went through the peer review process and about, I think it was April 15th, we got notification that the paper had been accepted for the journal. It was a very vigorous peer review process and it should be, you know, science is all about questioning.
That's how desperate, you know, they just couldn't find a reviewer. But finally we did, we went through the peer review process and about, I think it was April 15th, we got notification that the paper had been accepted for the journal. It was a very vigorous peer review process and it should be, you know, science is all about questioning.
We're not sitting here with cheerleaders with pom poms and saying, what a great job. It should go through a grueling, rigorous process. The peer review process was about four weeks. I made sure with the rest of my team that the data was immaculate, pristine. All the T's were crossed. Yes, because we know, and even to this day, I talk to the rest of my team, we're so scared.
We're not sitting here with cheerleaders with pom poms and saying, what a great job. It should go through a grueling, rigorous process. The peer review process was about four weeks. I made sure with the rest of my team that the data was immaculate, pristine. All the T's were crossed. Yes, because we know, and even to this day, I talk to the rest of my team, we're so scared.
Of this that someone is going to sabotage his journal like Bruce is just on edge. Everyone on that paper is just on edge, even though we know we've gotten accepted. I just confirmed approved. So I mean, any day now we should we should have the link to the paper. And it is actually, to be honest with you, a much better paper than the preprint version.
Of this that someone is going to sabotage his journal like Bruce is just on edge. Everyone on that paper is just on edge, even though we know we've gotten accepted. I just confirmed approved. So I mean, any day now we should we should have the link to the paper. And it is actually, to be honest with you, a much better paper than the preprint version.
It's significantly better, which is a testament to the peer review process, which is why we need an opportunity to go through the peer review process, which was denied to us for almost four years. But thankfully, and I don't know if it was the tide has changed because of the election and people are able to talk freely. I don't know. I'm merely speculating, but definitely something's changed.
It's significantly better, which is a testament to the peer review process, which is why we need an opportunity to go through the peer review process, which was denied to us for almost four years. But thankfully, and I don't know if it was the tide has changed because of the election and people are able to talk freely. I don't know. I'm merely speculating, but definitely something's changed.
You know, I think it's a good thing. You know, I think for the longest time, as everyone in medicine knows, some of these high-impact journals out there, these quote-unquote reputable journals, there's a medical oligarchy that's out there that controls the flow and dissemination of information. You're either in the cool crowd or you're outside it. And I think we need to break that up.
You know, I think it's a good thing. You know, I think for the longest time, as everyone in medicine knows, some of these high-impact journals out there, these quote-unquote reputable journals, there's a medical oligarchy that's out there that controls the flow and dissemination of information. You're either in the cool crowd or you're outside it. And I think we need to break that up.
That whole process needs to be dismantled. I'm not necessarily sure anything will come out of this DOJ inquiry because, you know, these journals, it's very easy for them to say, well, you know, that paper or that study wasn't up to the standard of the journal. So I think it might be tough. But what we can do is get more transparency moving forward.
That whole process needs to be dismantled. I'm not necessarily sure anything will come out of this DOJ inquiry because, you know, these journals, it's very easy for them to say, well, you know, that paper or that study wasn't up to the standard of the journal. So I think it might be tough. But what we can do is get more transparency moving forward.
in how these journals are reviewing articles and papers. For example, it can't just come from some of the elite institutions, because there are some great researchers, as you know, over the years and interviewing other researchers who are not in these big academic centers, they're private investigators.
in how these journals are reviewing articles and papers. For example, it can't just come from some of the elite institutions, because there are some great researchers, as you know, over the years and interviewing other researchers who are not in these big academic centers, they're private investigators.
Absolutely. And like I said, it's a it's a medical oligarchy. Right. So we would get interviewed by by mainstream media, which, by the way, I you know, I get Washington Post and New York Times reporters trying to contact me about our research. And I just kind of give them the Elon respond GFY because, you know, what they'll do is they will they will go.
Absolutely. And like I said, it's a it's a medical oligarchy. Right. So we would get interviewed by by mainstream media, which, by the way, I you know, I get Washington Post and New York Times reporters trying to contact me about our research. And I just kind of give them the Elon respond GFY because, you know, what they'll do is they will they will go.