Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

In fact, I think it's time to get him back on the show.

He came on maybe episode 30, maybe like in the first year.

But he was basically talking about...

how we have a touch deficiency in the modern world.

And just to be clear, we're talking about safe, consensual touch.

But he has done a lot of research showing how important that safe, consensual touch is for human beings.

Yes, mother-child, for sure.

But also beyond that, we need it.

And there are certain receptors that actually only get triggered when you give it that touch.

Yeah.

And looking at that through the lens of the immune system, we know that those things are anti-inflammatory.

So of course, that anti-inflammatory component is mediated through the immune system.

And

You trained, I think, to become a performance breathwork instructor.

Yes.

Relatively recently.

Under this kind of umbrella of stress and how it can negatively impact our immune system and therefore our health, you mentioned what jujitsu has done for you, which sounds profound.

Can you briefly mention what you feel meditation has done for you?

Is there any research on meditation to your knowledge and what it does for our immune system?

And also then let's talk about breath work and how that can also potentially help.