Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

I've never heard it put like that before.

Can you talk a little bit about midlife gut health, why it's so important, why you wrote those beautiful words and also how it interacts with our immune system?

Yeah, I think there's gonna be many people listening, Jenna, who totally resonate with that.

And I think the point you're trying to make, I think is that you might have got away with certain things in your twenties and maybe your thirties, but you're probably not gonna be getting away with them in your forties.

So you're almost making the case that actually this stuff may not be actually starting in your forties.

Your lifestyle,

It may have been driving this possibility in your symptoms for years, but you got away with it because of youth.

I know in the book you split up the human life into four seasons, but you could also, I guess, look at it in two seasons, couldn't you?

You could either go pre-40 and post-40.

Pre-40, you might get away with stuff.

Post-40...

You're probably not.

Yeah.

We even know from the, you know, a lot of doctors who see women with menopausal symptoms, they will say that actually if used in the right way,

this can be the best wake up call you ever get.

Because if you can now start to live a bit more in harmony with your rhythms and the rest of your life, and as you would say, in alignment, you might, I'm not saying you won't need hormones, you might still do, but a lot of the time,

Women don't.

I've seen that over and over again.

A lot of the time, if you can balance what I call the four pillars, food, movement, sleep, and in particularly stress, I have seen women's menopausal symptoms almost disappear because the whole system is a lot more balanced.

The worst trajectory.