Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

I was finding myself on X for God knows how long just trying to stay up to date with stuff.

And I thought, okay, wrong end.

You do not need X on your phone.

Again, not trying to tell anyone how to live their life.

For me, I was realizing that I don't need 60 to 90 minutes of negative inputs into my life about stuff that is largely out of my control.

I just delete the app.

And even though that hasn't changed anything that is going on in the world, my experience of day-to-day life is completely different.

For many years, Jenna, I would specialize in seeing people with autoimmune disease.

This is out with where I was in general practice at the time.

I'd also see people for an hour, an hour and a half who had complex issues that they couldn't get resolution for.

And I used to really enjoy that.

And one thing I found

I mean, I don't have the exact statistics, so it was almost 100% of the time was when I did a timeline on people who suffered from any autoimmune disease, whether that be lupus, Crohn's, ulcerative colitis, rheumatoid arthritis, whatever it might be.

I can tell you, it was amazing how many times in the six months prior to them getting a diagnosis, there was a significant stressor in their life.

Whether it be a divorce,

bereavement, job loss.

I'm not saying it was the only cause, but it seemed to be the trigger that tipped them over the edge.

You've been studying immunology for many years.

Does that make sense to you through the lens of the science of the immune system?

This is where...