Dr. Rhonda Patrick

And then now they're facing a cancer diagnosis and they should be exercising.

How do we get those numbers up?

I don't know how the cost of chemotherapy seems like it'd be much more than the cost of an exercise program.

Obviously, we're not talking about exercise as a monotherapy for every cancer type and every diagnosis because some people are advanced.

But it seems like a drop in the pool when you're comparing it to the cost of a lot of these treatments.

But these exercise treatments have been shown to lower recurrence.

Is it just not a large enough study or more studies are needed to convince?

I'm assuming that using biomarkers like reducing circulating tumor cells, which would ultimately affect cancer recurrence, isn't enough to convince... This is a big debate in the oncology field, let alone the exercise oncology field.

Well, the good news is that there are many ways to exercise that are free than you can do at home, you can do in your neighborhood, at a park, right?

So, yeah, it is nice to have that support of a group class, and it's certainly very beneficial to have a coach, a class, I think.

But at the end of the day, if you're looking at, you know,

affecting your mortality, your recurrence, your mental health, all the things that you discuss, then someone's going to be motivated to go out and do it.

Okay, so I have a few rapid fire questions.

I would say, if there were only one sentence you could permanently tattoo onto every patient's mind about exercise, what would it be?

Which one?

Oh, because you're outside, not having some protection.

But it's not exercises doing it.

It's sun exposure.

So that's a bit misleading.

With the animal, the preclinical animal models, what types of tumors were exacerbated by exercise?