Dr. Rhonda Patrick

But first, I kind of wanted to ask you, what are some of the non-obvious presentations of sleep apnea that you see, especially in people who maybe don't even report feeling sleepy?

So what should a person do?

Like how many, is this an every night thing where people are getting woken up?

Like if they're having apnea, is this like an every night thing?

Like what sort of symptom clusters, biomarkers can people look at short of like going and getting the thing on your finger and measuring the oxygen and, you know, the whole thing?

Do those at home kind of, I remember doing one once like years ago when I was in graduate school and I was, I think I was waking up because of stress, but the test came out negative, but I wore this like ox pulse thing, I think.

I don't know what it was in my finger.

If you're working with someone who has obstructive sleep apnea, how do you go about differentiating if it's caused by allergies or positional or something like nasal congestion?

I don't know.

What happens if someone has untreated sleep apnea?

So, I mean, what happens to their sleep architecture?

I mean, first of all, maybe we should briefly mention like the sleep stages, but like, does it affect their sleep architecture?

Can I, before you get to that, it's so fascinating, particularly the part where you're talking about, you know, all the new information that you're learning every day, you know, you're during that transition between deep and REM, you kind of, your brain is like sorting it out and getting rid of the things that you don't really, aren't really that important to remember.

And then during REM sleep, you're like using what's left and somehow attaching it to like other memories and stuff and concepts.

And sometimes they don't even seem to make sense.

Like you'll,

Yeah.

Well, based on what you just said, I have now a new hypothesis for why we dream.

But I want to ask you, why do you think we dream?

Well, thank you.