Dr. Rhonda Patrick

I mean, just normal people that are kind of more active perhaps when they're in their job and then they retire and then they're not as active.

I mean, that's probably the biggest, I think, for the general population, the biggest problem is when they then retire and then they're just sitting at home and then no longer physically active.

So knowing that anabolic resistance can be overcome by physical activity is...

mostly overcome is, I think, extremely important for public health.

Before we kind of dive into some of that a little bit more, you mentioned something about being overweight and obese with respect to protein requirements.

Because in the United States, many people are overweight and obese.

And people listening to this podcast might look at that number, 0.8 grams per kilogram body weight, and directly translate that to their weight, which could be quite high.

So how does a person who is overweight and obese, perhaps it's not as important because they're probably, like you said, they're consuming enough food so they don't have to worry about it, but there are anal people that want to think about calculations no matter what.

How does that person approach how much protein they should be taking in when they are obese or overweight?

So most people aren't going and measuring their fat-free mass, but that is something that can be done.

People can go get, would you say, doing a DEXA scan would be something that would be more or less similar?

Yeah.

With respect to the resistance training, sort of how it's tied to protein intake and increases in muscle mass and even strength would be something I'm interested in because there have been some meta-analyses.

Stu Phillips did a really nice one where they looked at increasing protein intake and increases in...

They said lean body mass and then also strength.

And what kind of was striking to me and stood out to me was that with increasing amounts of protein, so when you start to get up to, like, for younger people, 1.6 grams per kilogram body weight was associated with a modest amount

increase in muscle mass, but it was very minor increase in strength.

And these were people that were doing resistance training.

And the same went for elderly.

They started to actually have increases in muscle mass at a little bit lower.