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Dr. Rhonda Patrick

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FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

You've been talking a lot about proline, hydroxyproline, glycine.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

I mean, these are amino acids that are certainly in greater quantity in something like hydrolyzed collagen powder versus a protein source from food or even a protein powder.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

But there's been a lot of, at least a lot of preclinical evidence looking at

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

these small peptides being signaling molecules in their tissues.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

And there's been a lot of sort of, I would say, speculation that perhaps the signaling role of these collagen peptides may be as important, if not more important, than the incorporation of proline and hydroxyproline and glycine into tendons and skin.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

Yeah.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

The thing that really piqued my interest in that was there's been a few studies looking at very small amounts of hydrolyzed collagen powder.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

I mean, amounts that you would get in a pill in people with giving them either the hydrolyzed collagen powder or a placebo in people with arthritis.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

And the very, very small amount of hydrolyzed collagen powder was having...

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

an effect on reducing, you know, some of their, a lot of it's subjective, but there was also some inflammation that was reduced.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

That's why I brought up the signaling molecule as well, because when I saw the doses, and these are placebo-controlled, it was very surprising to me.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

I'm like, well, it's got to be something else going on.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

The last thing about the hydrolyzed collagen powder I wanted to talk about was getting your thoughts on, you know, so typically hydrolyzed collagen powder is available in a wide variety of sizes.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

So anywhere between 2 kilodollars to 10.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

And there's some evidence that suggests perhaps that smaller, like two to five kilodaltons, those peptides are better absorbed, better used as signaling molecules, getting to the tissues better.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

Like, for example, skin, getting smaller ones like two to three kilodaltons.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

I mean, again, there's not an overwhelming amount of evidence on this.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

It's really up and coming, and I think in its infancy.

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

But I just wanted to get your thoughts and any speculation as to why smaller, perhaps not the 10 kilodaltons, but maybe the two to five range might be

FoundMyFitness
#093 Dr. Luc van Loon: Optimizing Protein Intake & Distribution for Muscle Growth

And what are your thoughts on the skin studies?