Dr. Richard Bosshardt

mass movement to adopt the idea that the country was systemically racist, and every institution, every organization was racist, and we had to radically transform the country. And the American College of Surgeons was no different. They jumped right on that bandwagon.

And within weeks after the George Floyd killing, I mean, literally weeks, they had assembled a task force on racism, and they published this in the Bulletin, which is their quarterly newsletter. And the bulletin basically said that they were doing this to deal with racism in the ACS. It wasn't like, is there racism in the ACS? There is racism, and we need to ferret it out.

And within weeks after the George Floyd killing, I mean, literally weeks, they had assembled a task force on racism, and they published this in the Bulletin, which is their quarterly newsletter. And the bulletin basically said that they were doing this to deal with racism in the ACS. It wasn't like, is there racism in the ACS? There is racism, and we need to ferret it out.

And within weeks after the George Floyd killing, I mean, literally weeks, they had assembled a task force on racism, and they published this in the Bulletin, which is their quarterly newsletter. And the bulletin basically said that they were doing this to deal with racism in the ACS. It wasn't like, is there racism in the ACS? There is racism, and we need to ferret it out.

Not—that would be pretty extreme.

Not—that would be pretty extreme.

Not—that would be pretty extreme.

It's almost as bad, Tucker. The idea is that— Well, let me take that step. They claim that surgeons were racist, that the ACS itself was racist, and that the practice of surgery was racist. And the reason why they made that last claim was because there are known disparities.

It's almost as bad, Tucker. The idea is that— Well, let me take that step. They claim that surgeons were racist, that the ACS itself was racist, and that the practice of surgery was racist. And the reason why they made that last claim was because there are known disparities.

It's almost as bad, Tucker. The idea is that— Well, let me take that step. They claim that surgeons were racist, that the ACS itself was racist, and that the practice of surgery was racist. And the reason why they made that last claim was because there are known disparities.

We know that the outcomes for surgery are not as good statistically for, we'll just call it black and white because it just makes it easier to deal with that. That is not as good for blacks as it is for whites. And so the idea is that there's some element of racism or discrimination that impacts the outcome of surgery.

We know that the outcomes for surgery are not as good statistically for, we'll just call it black and white because it just makes it easier to deal with that. That is not as good for blacks as it is for whites. And so the idea is that there's some element of racism or discrimination that impacts the outcome of surgery.

We know that the outcomes for surgery are not as good statistically for, we'll just call it black and white because it just makes it easier to deal with that. That is not as good for blacks as it is for whites. And so the idea is that there's some element of racism or discrimination that impacts the outcome of surgery.

And, of course, if you take that to the next step, it means that, you know, blacks are not getting as good care. Their surgery is not being as done as well and whatever. There's a whole lot of reasons why you can have disparate outcomes. But this was the one reason that they latched on to, and they have never let go. And then, have you heard of the term racial concordance? No.

And, of course, if you take that to the next step, it means that, you know, blacks are not getting as good care. Their surgery is not being as done as well and whatever. There's a whole lot of reasons why you can have disparate outcomes. But this was the one reason that they latched on to, and they have never let go. And then, have you heard of the term racial concordance? No.

And, of course, if you take that to the next step, it means that, you know, blacks are not getting as good care. Their surgery is not being as done as well and whatever. There's a whole lot of reasons why you can have disparate outcomes. But this was the one reason that they latched on to, and they have never let go. And then, have you heard of the term racial concordance? No.

Okay, that's a really important concept. And this is something that's being promoted by the ACS. The ACS has explicitly stated that blacks would do better if their surgeon is black. As simple as that.

Okay, that's a really important concept. And this is something that's being promoted by the ACS. The ACS has explicitly stated that blacks would do better if their surgeon is black. As simple as that.

Okay, that's a really important concept. And this is something that's being promoted by the ACS. The ACS has explicitly stated that blacks would do better if their surgeon is black. As simple as that.

It's a racial concordance that you are going to receive better care by a doctor, surgeon or other doctor, if they are of your same race, ethnicity, gender, that you might get better care, pardon me, better care if you're a woman by a female surgeon, for example. And they've hung on to that as well.