Dr. Richard Davidson

Yeah.

And I love the consistency theme and also the discipline.

And yes, I think you're naming something real and important.

And there's a delicate calculus

that ranges between kind of letting go and discipline.

And each person, I think, falls at a different point in this continuum.

And what works for one person may not work for another.

You know, with regard to meditation, I always say that what's best for one person isn't necessarily what's best for others.

And we have to discover what works for us.

You know, what we do know is that in terms of meditation, that consistency is really important.

Yeah, no, I think it's been super important.

I do think that the discipline that you're talking about is really important and it is part of it.

But again, I think we need to find the right balance for each person and initially...

it's really important to have people invite them to taste this with the lowest possible friction so that they can really experience the benefit and then it can gradually progress and they can harness some discipline which eventually will be important.

I mean, I think that that's something super important.

And I think

You know, with regard to attention, we talk about two big buckets.

One is stimulus captured attention.

And the folks who design products online have been really good at capturing our attention.

And our attention gets hijacked by that.