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Dr. Roel Konijnendijk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1345 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Epaminondas says, let's just do it and be legends.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

According to the tradition, yeah.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

There is some very interesting evidence that some of the other Boeotarchs, some of the other Theban generals, want an equal claim to this bravery.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But in the later tradition, it's Epaminondas who puts his foot down and says, no, we're fighting.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And Pelopidas shows up late and casts the tie-breaking vote to fight.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

This is the dramatic moment, the movie scene, essentially, that you can almost picture in your minds.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He shows up late, there's seven of them.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

He shows up late, he's the seventh, and he casts the tie-breaking vote.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And this is sort of something that generally, as we've seen, is a bad idea, fighting a Spartan army.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

But it's become clear the Spartan army has become much more weakened than it was before.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Its numbers are shrinking.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

It can't rely on its allies like it used to.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

There's a lot of discontent in that alliance as well.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

No one wants to fight for Sparta.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

And so the Thebans figure out how to beat this army, which is you just got to beat the Spartans themselves.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

You just got to fight them, put a stop to them, ideally kill their command structure, like just cut off the head as they put it, cut off the head of the snake.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

Yeah, that is the origin.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

So crush the head of the snake and then the rest of the body is useless.

The Ancients
Fall of Sparta

That is how Epaminondas supposedly sells his plan to his troops.