Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

And in describing Nolan,

events prior to that child ending up at the hospital and especially in a situation where it proves to be a fatal brain injury.

Within that short time period before, Nolan then was transported to the hospital finally and the condition he was in when he got there, which was essentially dying.

the chance that he did something like standing, walking, anything like that in any kind of a coordinated manner, which they seem to be suggesting that he kind of was upright.

Not necessarily that somebody held a limp, comatose child in an upright position and said they were standing, but there seemed to be portraying that

he was a little more neurologically intact at that point.

The chance that that's the case is extremely small.

Right.

And that's usually the, especially if somebody doesn't know that something significant in terms of brain injury has happened to a young child.

a coma kind of looks like they're asleep.

So lack of responsiveness, depending on a child, sometimes they're hard to wake up.

So, you know, I think that perception of the child being asleep is fairly common in the non-offending caretakers.

It depends.

Again, sometimes people are portraying sort of a best case scenario of what they observed.

Like did somebody pour fluid in his mouth and it kind of drooled out and they're calling that vomiting?

I don't know.

I think, again, any attempted oral intake within a couple hours of the time that he went to the hospital

I certainly wouldn't expect that it was in any kind of sort of conscious, voluntary kind of a manner.

Taking a bunch of sips and being fine and then five minutes later throwing up.