Dr. Selina Brace

It's tantalizing to think that these dogs are the thing that starts to unite people.

Again, that's me imagining things and thinking of this in a future way.

What is true for absolute is that these groups are very culturally different, genetically different, but the dogs are very similar.

Something is happening here

where they are exchanging the dogs.

All these dogs are actually moving between them.

There is a closeness there, and this could be the thing that is binding them, which is a fascinating thought.

Yes, I do believe so.

Well, I hope so anyway.

I agree.

More to come, Tristan.

You'll be inviting us back again, we hope.

Yeah, let's hope.

Let's hope.

I'd just add to that, that just saying, if we think about the fact that we see that dogs and wolves are already so genetically distinct by 15,000 years, and they are so widespread across Europe, as we've said, we've found these dogs now all across Europe, they're widespread, they're very different.

So clearly the actual domestication process must have happened quite a while before then.

That's just what I would add to that.

It's actually a very informative time point, really.

Tristan, always a pleasure to be here.

Thank you so much for having us.