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Dr. Sergiu Pașcă

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Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

There's a lot of stochastic forces in development.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And if a cell, it's much faster at opening the other gene, like the similar gene that is unmutated, and in the other case it wasn't, or maybe there are other environmental factors that are interacting.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

But the other possibility is that the genetic background that we have is very different.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And so we're still like in early days of truly understanding what are the effects of the genetic backgrounds in modulating the severity of these conditions.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

But in itself, it's a very interesting question.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Why some individuals can have a massive deletion of 60 genes and yet still move around?

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So I think that's going to be a lot of interesting biology to discover behind this.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And then, of course, we know that there are differences between animals and humans.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

That we already know, that very often a mutation that would be very severe in a human has almost no defect in an animal model, partly because that gene maybe plays a different role or perhaps the genetic background is very different.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So, Timothy syndrome has sort of like been the first example, partly because it was some of the first neurons that were derived from iPS cells and from patients with neurodevelopmental disorders in those early days, and also partly because it's the disease that we studied so much on all possible angles, first with 2D neurons, then with 3D organoids, then with assembloids, that at one point...

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And I like to say that a therapy became self-evident, so to speak.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

I mean, we were honestly not, I was not thinking that we would develop a therapy for Timothy syndrome, like not in the near future.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

But at one point, we just accumulated enough biological information that you just look at it and you say, oh, this is exactly what we need to do.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And it turns out that, and this we did about like five years ago, that we understood so well how this channel is processed in the cells and what it causes, that at one point we realized that all we need to do is generate this tiny piece of nucleic acid

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

that we can get inside the cells, it will go in, switch the way the channel is actually processed and rescue or reverse the phenotypes.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And it turns out that every single defect that we've described over the past 15 years in the studies can be rescued by just adding the tiny piece of nucleic acid.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

It's almost like a gene therapy in a way.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

It just doesn't involve a virus.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And so this is the first disease and we're preparing for a clinical trial.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

These patients are very rare.