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Dr. Sergiu Pașcă

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Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Sometimes this umbilical cell, sometimes we don't even know what cells are being injected.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Like it could be cells from somebody else.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Yeah, they're incredibly risky procedures.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Of course, they've never really been observed.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

There have been very few of any clinical trials trying to really address it in a very systematic way.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And very often that's also the case, you know, that's also because they're not really justified.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So in the context of autism, this is very often like done, you know, and it's done not just in South America.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Sometimes there are places in Europe where you can get an injection of some stem cells for autism.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Some cells that are collected from the patient.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

It depends a little bit on where it's done and how it's actually done.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

But again, even from a biological point of view, what are those stem cells collecting?

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

presumably doing, let's say, in autism.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

You know, we don't think that there is a cell type that is missing in the brain, so it's not like those cells can go.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And I think, as I was mentioning before, most of the cells are already restricted in their potential.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

They can no longer make any cell types.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So, you know, the idea that you take these pluripotent stem cells and you just inject them, let's say, in the knee, and it will, like, miraculously grow, you know, cartilage, it's very often not really the case because those cells are not even capable of making cartilage.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So I think there's, you know, very often, you know, a lack of understanding of what these therapies really are.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And then, of course, there is sadly a lack of understanding of what is actually being injected.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So, you know, for autism, this is unfortunately happening much more often than you would think.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So I very often get like parents or families that are asking me desperately, you know, with like exhausted old resources.