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Dr. Sergiu Pașcă

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Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

But they change a lot during development.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

They're made out of different units, and the units change.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And it was very well known that during early development, so prenatal, before birth, you primarily have two B subunits.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And then after birth, they're primarily 2A.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So if you look in brain development, you just see how essentially 2B goes up and then it goes down and 2A goes up.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And when you look, they meet around birth.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So very often people thought that it's birth itself that triggers that switch.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

That canonical, it's called a canonical switch because we all thought that it was like so classic.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And then you take an organoid that you maintain in the dish for 600 days.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And of course, we're not inducing birth.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

We're not changing media.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

We're not doing anything special.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And no hormones from mom.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

No hormones changes.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Like, you know, we keep exactly the same media, which is certainly a very simplistic, you know, kind of like soup of chemicals, but we don't change it.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

And then you just look at this two subunits and you see how like 2B goes down and 2A goes up and they pretty much meet that nine months of keeping them in a dish.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

So that tells us that there's some sort of intrinsic clock.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

Once you start a development,

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

the cells measure really, really well the time of development.

Huberman Lab
Using Stem Cells to Cure Autism, Epilepsy & Schizophrenia | Dr. Sergiu Pașca

That does not mean that all aspects of development are going to now be recapitulated in a dish, but it tells us that there is this incredible ability of cells, especially in the nervous system, because of course those cells will keep for the rest of our lives.