Dr. Shebani Sethi

So what you're saying is people who are overweight and obese often are very malnourished and vitamin and nutrient deficient.

So what you're saying is people who are overweight and obese often are very malnourished and vitamin and nutrient deficient.

That's sort of a paradox, right?

That's sort of a paradox, right?

That's sort of a paradox, right?

They're eating all this food. Why are they nutritionally deficient? But they're actually among the most malnourished.

They're eating all this food. Why are they nutritionally deficient? But they're actually among the most malnourished.

They're eating all this food. Why are they nutritionally deficient? But they're actually among the most malnourished.

They're looking in all the wrong places for the nutrients. They're eating more and more food. And I think a study from Kevin Hall and others showed that if you let people eat as much as they want and you give them ultra-processed food versus whole foods, they'll eat about 500 calories more a day of ultra-processed food because they'll keep eating and they're hungry and they keep driving.

They're looking in all the wrong places for the nutrients. They're eating more and more food. And I think a study from Kevin Hall and others showed that if you let people eat as much as they want and you give them ultra-processed food versus whole foods, they'll eat about 500 calories more a day of ultra-processed food because they'll keep eating and they're hungry and they keep driving.

They're looking in all the wrong places for the nutrients. They're eating more and more food. And I think a study from Kevin Hall and others showed that if you let people eat as much as they want and you give them ultra-processed food versus whole foods, they'll eat about 500 calories more a day of ultra-processed food because they'll keep eating and they're hungry and they keep driving.

And you talk a lot about it in your work, about the biology of what these do to your brain in terms of dopamine and the addiction reward pathways in the brain that make you... literally become addicted to these compounds and how that affects you.

And you talk a lot about it in your work, about the biology of what these do to your brain in terms of dopamine and the addiction reward pathways in the brain that make you... literally become addicted to these compounds and how that affects you.

And you talk a lot about it in your work, about the biology of what these do to your brain in terms of dopamine and the addiction reward pathways in the brain that make you... literally become addicted to these compounds and how that affects you.

And it's more like a coffee filter. You know, it's a sip.

And it's more like a coffee filter. You know, it's a sip.

And it's more like a coffee filter. You know, it's a sip.

People go, it's like emotional eating. It's not really biological, true addiction. What you're saying is this is really a true biological addiction, just like heroin or cocaine or alcohol, that you get withdrawal, you get cravings, you get increased need for more and more of the substance to receive the same pleasure.

People go, it's like emotional eating. It's not really biological, true addiction. What you're saying is this is really a true biological addiction, just like heroin or cocaine or alcohol, that you get withdrawal, you get cravings, you get increased need for more and more of the substance to receive the same pleasure.

People go, it's like emotional eating. It's not really biological, true addiction. What you're saying is this is really a true biological addiction, just like heroin or cocaine or alcohol, that you get withdrawal, you get cravings, you get increased need for more and more of the substance to receive the same pleasure.