Dr Simon Elliott

A proper martial culture.

And losing...

is not appropriate.

If you lose, you're gone.

But the person who comes up, make sure that they don't lose.

I'll give you a great example as well.

Marching camps.

Every Roman military campaign in enemy territory involves the building of marching camps.

Every night?

Every night.

And it begins in the Pyrrhic Wars because the Romans learned it from Pyrrhus of Iperus.

So you've got two examples there within 30 years, haven't you?

You've got the marching camps, which are great for me as an archaeologist because it means I can trace their roots for most of their campaigns, but also they become a naval power as well.

Now that's important as well, becoming a naval power and winning the first Punic War because it drags the Romans now properly away from the Italian peninsula into the Western Mediterranean.

And suddenly their sights are sort of, you know, going, oh, this is interesting.

And you can imagine the Hellenistic kingdoms are this and who,

Who's that lot?

Yeah.

It is.

It's an absolute classic example of a war of survival.