Dr. Stephen Meyer

section in the film story of everything about this because the, the, the producers have, they, they went out to some great animators and, and depicted these things with some real precision.

But, um, inside living cells today, we have found, um, rotary, uh,

We have found sliding clamps.

We have found turbines.

We have found little walking robotic motor proteins that tow large vesicles of materials along tracks that are effectively, they're like railroad tracks.

I've seen them.

They're incredible.

Yeah, it's called kinesin walking motor proteins.

And so we have animations of all of these in the new film because you've really got to see them to believe them.

And it beggars belief, strains credulity to think that any of these machines could have arisen through an undirected mutation selection type process.

The problem is – and this is what Michael Behe, our colleague at Lehigh University, showed –

back in 96 in his famous book, Darwin's Black Box, is that these machines time and time again have a property that he calls irreducible complexity, or what an engineer might call functional integration, where you need a very large core set of these components

parts that make up the machines to be present in the right configurational order with each other for the machine to have a function at all.

And if you remove one of them, the machine shuts down.

So imagine you want to build this machine in a gradual step-by-step Darwinian way.

And you've got a 30-part flagellar motor.

It's got a whip-like tail.

It's got a rotor, a stator, a drive shaft.

It's got bushings.

I mean, you...