Dr. Stephen Meyer

And I think that's a culture, that's a civilizational crisis.

And I think as a consequence of that, a lot of people are opening themselves up to the kind of journey that you've been on.

Could there be something more?

And the journey that I was on.

And I think the scientific evidence that we're marshalling and citing can be important to people as they realize it's not just that I maybe want this to be true or hope something like this could be true, but there's actually evidence for it.

That God actually is a reality.

Well, you know, you just as simple as something as abortion on demand or, or, you know, uh, the, the kinds of experiments that the Nazis did, you know, it's just, just awful stuff.

That was very well said.

I should be interviewing you.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Well, thank you guys.

This has been a great conversation.

It's been just a delight.