Dr. Sue Cornbluth

Oh, Nancy, you got it 100%.

Look, what I'm saying here is I'm listening to all of this and feeling disgusted inside that he is an ankle monitor and probably should be fine.

This is all about him.

You know, the one thing that I do, Nancy, is I look right in the eyes and what I see in his eyes is emptiness.

And to me, that's a sign of a pure sociopath.

And I don't understand what the judge was thinking by letting him out.

And that is scary to me and the population.

Well, it's cognitive dissonance.

I mean, they want to believe that this person is true because they want to believe in something that gives them a sense of belonging and a sense of purpose.

And so they followed him because that made them feel good about themselves.

And even if they had questions about him or they had thoughts about him

that were not pure.

He was giving them something that was making them feel powerful.

I mean, isn't that what a lot of pastors do?

That they're in these positions and they want to make other people believe in what they're saying to them.

It's oftentimes like a cult-like following.

I'm not saying it's every pastor, but in this particular case, that's what I believe it is.

He's in a position of power and control and he uses it

to the nth degree to have coercive control over who is listening to him.

I believe it.